• @Xanza@lemm.ee
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    1353 months ago

    “It’s so expensive to have children in Japan that birthrate is further declining.”

    I swear to God these people couldn’t connect the dots with a GPS.

      • @robbinhood@lemmy.world
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        243 months ago

        I mean, Japan is one of the more isolationist countries on earth. And racism is a massive issue. Christianity isn’t a major factor, but traditional views on the roles of women and the set up of the household are a major challenge.

            • @Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world
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              3 months ago

              The problems over there are the same problems Americans are starting to rekon with. That’s why you see Vance and his ilk push for this fetishized version of the American dream where every MAGA male gets their own concubine. It’s fantasy and has the exact wrong chilling effect. As it’s trying to answer the same racist question, “more of us less of them.” While what they need is a healthy population which they refuse to recognize requires a diverse composition with plenty of resources.

      • @stoly@lemmy.world
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        303 months ago

        It’s not that there don’t care as much as they don’t believe it will affect them personally. They believe they their wealth will protect them.

        • @Infernal_pizza@lemm.ee
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          103 months ago

          I think plenty of them also think it’s far enough in the future that it won’t affect them (spoiler alert: it’s not)

      • @Xanza@lemm.ee
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        213 months ago

        They don’t care about it getting worse. because global warming is their answer to every goal they have.

        It’s the classic “we don’t care if the valley floods, we live on the hill” mentality. They think that if/when the world devolves into chaos that they’ll be safe because they’re well off.

      • @tankfox@midwest.social
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        53 months ago

        The problem with conspiracy theories is that they’re trying to assign a single point of blame to a complete systemic failure. The feeling is that if we can simply find out who is doing this and boil it down to one person or one group we can then simply attack that group and solve all our problems. That’s exactly the ox that fascism has yolked on its ride to power in every single generation.

      • @turnip@sh.itjust.works
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        -113 months ago

        It was the government doing window guidance that caused their mess, how do you blame the people who made successful companies that gave Japan its first world living standard?

    • Dr. Moose
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      373 months ago

      I’m not sure how true this statement is. I go to Japan every year and the child care infrastructure there is incredible.

      The healthcare is icredible - you can literally summon healthcare assistant if youe kid is sick at any point for free to your home

      Then there’s incredible public transporatiob system, parks, everything is equipped with child support and even culture heavily respects kids so they can do most things independently.

      I think they mean expensive time and desire wise and Japanese still work incredible hours many of which seem to actually negatively impact productivity. People don’t feel like such investment is worth it and tbh that could easily shift around with cultural changes but Japan is very allergic to those.

      • @Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world
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        93 months ago

        This is an interesting point. So apparently the problems of having that terrible working culture are solved for (ish) to promote procreation, but it’s not helping. Gee, I wonder if possibly creating a society of miserable people and making it easier for them to create more people they presume will be miserable doesn’t work because they just don’t want to do that.

      • @Lux18@lemmy.world
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        63 months ago

        But what about housing? If you live in a shoebox with no hope of getting a larger place, it’s unlikely that you’re gonna have kids.

        • Dr. Moose
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          63 months ago

          Housing is pretty good in Japan outside of Tokyo, especially if you don’t mind a bit of a train ride

    • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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      163 months ago

      pretty much the same in korea, i think korea is slightly worst off, china is beginning to see its effects too, they already trying to change that by “encouraging more sex”, but they arnt solving the underlying issue, which is the one-child policy that devastated the female to male ratio and HCOL. and they also have harsh work ethic.

    • @blady_blah@lemmy.world
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      63 months ago

      My first two kids were born in Japan, and they were actually pretty cheap. The local city gives you some money (a few thousand) when your child is born, and day care was good and super cheap, like $10 per day because it was subsidized.

      It really wasn’t very expensive.