Especially when the first things they do are start taking apart consumer and environmental protections, disband social safety nets, increase taxes (tariffs) on imported goods, attack FEMA, and stop farm subsidies, all of which hurt the working class.
Not only do people still believe the ridiculous lie, they believe it despite the mountain of evidence they don’t give a fuck about you.
Any system large enough is going to have waste and fraud. That doesn’t mean the system shouldn’t exist, and it certainly doesn’t mean that the system shouldn’t be handed over to the largest wasters and fraudsters on the planet.
They “are” for those people who are too stupid to understand that individual consumers don’t have the time, expertise, access to inside information on company processes and their own labs so that they don’t need to rely on regulators to make sure they’re not buying and consuming dangerous shit, and can do it all by themselves as individuals.
The “too stupid to understand regulators are there to do what individuals don’t have the time, expertise and power to do as individuals” neatly brings us around exactly to the point the OP was making.
(Mind you, sadly it’s not just Trumpettes who fall into the “too stupid to understand the need of regulators” category)
Our system has/had accountability baked into it. Rather than rely on our separation of powers and independent inspectors general, you chuckle fucks, in your infinite lack of wisdom, decided to hand our government over to a Nazi billionaire with glaring conflicts of interest.
Are you trying to tell us that the guy that has billions of dollars and also did Nazi salutes on stage where we all saw it clearly… somehow is actually NOT a Nazi billionaire?
If he acts like a Nazi, talks like a Nazi, salutes like a Nazi. He might just be a Nazi
And if he has billions of dollars he might just be a billionaire.
So, with the same logic you would agree that Biden is a pedophile…with all the videos of him clearly acting inappropriately with very young children …right?
I don’t hate the republican party. But the current party isn’t the republican party. I disagreed with the republican party, which is different. The current iteration has people in charge who have literally no understanding or don’t actually care how the government works and what is needed. They aren’t reducing “waste”, they are just using that as an excuse to try and get rid of anything they don’t like or don’t agree with. The sooner you start to understand that the better. Because you don’t have enough understanding of what’s actually going on to have a legitimate discussion about it. It’s like someone who doesn’t understand algebra trying to have a discussion about calculus.
How old are you? 'Cause the Republican party has been outright fascists for decades now. You’d have to go really far back to find an iteration of the party which was in any way reasonable.
Early 30s. I’ve never agreed with the republican party, but it seemed to me that at one point they were at least trying to improve things, even if their ideas were stupid.
The reason you are being down voted is because the current administration is not doing that. They SAY that’s what they are doing, but pay attention to their actual actions and who is benefitting. Look at the outcomes. It is the opposite of what you want.
Here is the crazy thing, I am very left wing, but I agree with you on the point of bringing down wasteful spending and that we should have accountability for government spending and such. But Trump and Elon are not at all doing those things. They are in this for their own selfish desires and agendas and they have convinced a lot of people otherwise. They are cutting the parts of government that oppose them or that they don’t like and none of that is going to have any significant impact on the budget. Go look up how much we spend on our defense budget or other big costs. Maybe we should stop sending bombs all over the world? Maybe we don’t need to spend more than half the other countries on earth combined? Maybe we shouldn’t have a system that allows a dozen people to have more wealth stolen and hoarded from the rest of the country? Maybe we need some fair wages for our hard work so that you and I can be a hard working American that gets fairly paid for our labors? The American Dream doesn’t work if you can work your whole life and still be in debt, while someone else can rake in billions without working at all, but simply because they own you and the company you work for.
I would wager that you and I want the same things. To be able to work and provide for ourselves and our family, to have enough to eat and have a home and hobbies and enjoy life. We want to feel like we contribute to our community. We want to create things and fix things and make things around us better for ourselves and others. We want to love and be loved. We want a government that REPRESENTS the people and invests in things that benefit us and help us and doesn’t waste it or tax us unfairly for it.
So why do you think the Republican party is helping you when they have a track record of voting for tax cuts to the billionaires and mega corporations and simultaneously raising your individual taxes? Why are they telling you to fear and hate immigrants when they are the backbone and the reason our country even started? Why are they telling you to fear and hate trans people that just want to exist and be who they are? Why are they NOT saying a word about the trillions of wasted money on military? The trillions stolen from us hard working Americans that goes into the pockets of the already rich like Elon? Could it be that they are lying to us?
Go look at the actions they make and look past the words they speak and tell me what you find.
Thanks for taking the time for such a thoughtful response. I do believe there is much more common ground between us all and it would be great if we focused on and built off of that.
As far as down votes…that’s what happens when you offer a conservative opinion on a liberal site. Maybe one day I’ll learn not to reply.
Especially when the first things they do are start taking apart consumer and environmental protections, disband social safety nets, increase taxes (tariffs) on imported goods, attack FEMA, and stop farm subsidies, all of which hurt the working class.
Not only do people still believe the ridiculous lie, they believe it despite the mountain of evidence they don’t give a fuck about you.
You hate the Republican party so much you support government waste over accountability for our tax dollars. That’s completely insane.
You hate people who want to be genuinely free to the point that you support stripping freedoms from others.
I hate freedom-haters like you. If you don’t like it, get out.
I don’t hate anyone. You are free to be as angry as you like, no one cares.
Your ignorant speech and actions say otherwise. People do care, otherwise you wouldn’t be responding, limp jackass.
Aww. Do you need a safe space to reflect?
🤣 I rest my case.
I’ll take that as a yes.
🤣 oh jeez
Lmao you think what’s happening now is going to increase accountability?
Explain how it hasn’t.
No, because you are clearly arguing in bad faith
Any system large enough is going to have waste and fraud. That doesn’t mean the system shouldn’t exist, and it certainly doesn’t mean that the system shouldn’t be handed over to the largest wasters and fraudsters on the planet.
Are you talking about the ones that are actually reporting the waste and fraud, lmao.
I do agree that there is a huge opportunity for waste and fraud in a large system, that’s why most have third party auditing.
Yeah. Why cut funding and staff for the IRS, which has like a 30/1 ROI? Why cut support for NASA which has ~10/1 ROI?
Because DOGE is a misnomer. It’s purely a tool to implement project 2025 goals.
Are consumer protections government waste?
They “are” for those people who are too stupid to understand that individual consumers don’t have the time, expertise, access to inside information on company processes and their own labs so that they don’t need to rely on regulators to make sure they’re not buying and consuming dangerous shit, and can do it all by themselves as individuals.
The “too stupid to understand regulators are there to do what individuals don’t have the time, expertise and power to do as individuals” neatly brings us around exactly to the point the OP was making.
(Mind you, sadly it’s not just Trumpettes who fall into the “too stupid to understand the need of regulators” category)
Our system
has/had accountability baked into it. Rather than rely on our separation of powers and independent inspectors general, you chuckle fucks, in your infinite lack of wisdom, decided to hand our government over to a Nazi billionaire with glaring conflicts of interest.Accountability? Puuuuuuhlease.
Nazi billionaire…you really drank the Kool aid didn’t you.
Would you rather we continue to tax and spend? You sound extremely liberal, so I’ll assume yes.
Nah, I’ll save the Kool aid for you cultists. I believe what my eyes tell me.
Are you trying to tell us that the guy that has billions of dollars and also did Nazi salutes on stage where we all saw it clearly… somehow is actually NOT a Nazi billionaire?
If he acts like a Nazi, talks like a Nazi, salutes like a Nazi. He might just be a Nazi
And if he has billions of dollars he might just be a billionaire.
So, with the same logic you would agree that Biden is a pedophile…with all the videos of him clearly acting inappropriately with very young children …right?
Oh look, someone else to block.
OBG stands for Ol’ Boy Gobbler
Obviously Been Grifted.
I don’t hate the republican party. But the current party isn’t the republican party. I disagreed with the republican party, which is different. The current iteration has people in charge who have literally no understanding or don’t actually care how the government works and what is needed. They aren’t reducing “waste”, they are just using that as an excuse to try and get rid of anything they don’t like or don’t agree with. The sooner you start to understand that the better. Because you don’t have enough understanding of what’s actually going on to have a legitimate discussion about it. It’s like someone who doesn’t understand algebra trying to have a discussion about calculus.
How old are you? 'Cause the Republican party has been outright fascists for decades now. You’d have to go really far back to find an iteration of the party which was in any way reasonable.
Early 30s. I’ve never agreed with the republican party, but it seemed to me that at one point they were at least trying to improve things, even if their ideas were stupid.
There is no one still alive today from the last time the republican party was trying to improve things.
The reason you are being down voted is because the current administration is not doing that. They SAY that’s what they are doing, but pay attention to their actual actions and who is benefitting. Look at the outcomes. It is the opposite of what you want.
Here is the crazy thing, I am very left wing, but I agree with you on the point of bringing down wasteful spending and that we should have accountability for government spending and such. But Trump and Elon are not at all doing those things. They are in this for their own selfish desires and agendas and they have convinced a lot of people otherwise. They are cutting the parts of government that oppose them or that they don’t like and none of that is going to have any significant impact on the budget. Go look up how much we spend on our defense budget or other big costs. Maybe we should stop sending bombs all over the world? Maybe we don’t need to spend more than half the other countries on earth combined? Maybe we shouldn’t have a system that allows a dozen people to have more wealth stolen and hoarded from the rest of the country? Maybe we need some fair wages for our hard work so that you and I can be a hard working American that gets fairly paid for our labors? The American Dream doesn’t work if you can work your whole life and still be in debt, while someone else can rake in billions without working at all, but simply because they own you and the company you work for.
I would wager that you and I want the same things. To be able to work and provide for ourselves and our family, to have enough to eat and have a home and hobbies and enjoy life. We want to feel like we contribute to our community. We want to create things and fix things and make things around us better for ourselves and others. We want to love and be loved. We want a government that REPRESENTS the people and invests in things that benefit us and help us and doesn’t waste it or tax us unfairly for it.
So why do you think the Republican party is helping you when they have a track record of voting for tax cuts to the billionaires and mega corporations and simultaneously raising your individual taxes? Why are they telling you to fear and hate immigrants when they are the backbone and the reason our country even started? Why are they telling you to fear and hate trans people that just want to exist and be who they are? Why are they NOT saying a word about the trillions of wasted money on military? The trillions stolen from us hard working Americans that goes into the pockets of the already rich like Elon? Could it be that they are lying to us?
Go look at the actions they make and look past the words they speak and tell me what you find.
Thanks for taking the time for such a thoughtful response. I do believe there is much more common ground between us all and it would be great if we focused on and built off of that.
As far as down votes…that’s what happens when you offer a conservative opinion on a liberal site. Maybe one day I’ll learn not to reply.
Way to sound stupid in under two sentences