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@Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world to No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world • 4 months ago

Is anyone planning on doing anything about trump creating a concentration camp at guantanamo bay?

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Is anyone planning on doing anything about trump creating a concentration camp at guantanamo bay?

@Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world to No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world • 4 months ago
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    Over turning Bush II’s policies were the primary reason I voted for Obama. Since then, I’ve only depressingly voted for democrats on the basis that they would at least slow the rise of fascism.

    This isn’t “both sides”, but if we couldn’t get gitmo closed with democrats, how could we do it with bold faced fascists?

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      Oh, so the expectation was always that a authoritarian was going to seize control of the federal government and open a concentration camp there? Funny, cause I never heard that argument but, yeah, sure, completely salient now.

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        Bush II was already fascist and used gitmo for exactly that. It’s specifically outside the US border so they can make an argument that American civil rights laws don’t apply there. At the very least, press and public can’t reach it.

        People were screaming from the top of their lungs about this exact scenario. Yes, this was expected and we cared too much about the economy to care.

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          Again, this is a false equivalence. Show me where bush II staged a coup. I have no love for the man but it’s entirely irrelevant to what is happening today.

          https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/10/timeline-20-years-of-guantanamo-bay-prison

          Show me on the timeline where, “people screamed at the top of their lungs” that gitmo would be repurposed to open concentration camps.

          • queermunist she/her
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            2000 was a judicial coup dawg

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              You really don’t understand what false equivalence is and frankly I can’t teach you if you haven’t caught on yet.

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            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

            https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/03/politics/brooks-brothers-riot-trump-what-matters/index.html

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore

            This shit has been a slow boil since Bush II or even Goldwater.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

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        You’re talking like it hasn’t always been a concentration camp. If liberals bothered to hold their own people accountable and have an actual red line that couldn’t be crossed, someone like Trump could have never made it into office.

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          The most gitmo ever held was maybe 700-800 people. Trumps talking 30000. Just because it’s a building and war crimes are done there doesn’t mean it’s a concentration camp.

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            People are still being held there, with no due process for over 20 years.

            1 person being held with no due process is as bad as 30000.

            Liberals and their fucking trump derangement syndrome keep fighting the wrong things.

            • @LengAwaits@lemmy.world
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              1 person being held with no due process is as bad as 30000.

              Please explain this one to me, because I’m not understanding your math.

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                If one person is being unjustly denied their right to freedom under law it’s just as bad as if 30000 are being denied their right to freedom under the law.

                • @LengAwaits@lemmy.world
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                  Why?

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                  So if there are 30000 unjustly imprisoned people then freeing 29999 of them is pointless since no improvement has been made.

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              “Once a cop is responsible for 1 murder he may as well continue to kill because 1 murder is the same as 30,000 murders.”

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                How many people does it take before it becomes wrong?

                • @LengAwaits@lemmy.world
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                  It becomes wrong immediately, but wrong is not a binary state.

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        Yes, actually. Edward Snowden risked hanging for treason by leaking the NSA mass surveillance program for just this reason. He’s the last true patriot, imo, and I wish he’d stayed and made the government take him to trial over their blatantly illegal program instead of ending up as a trophy on Putin’s shelf.

        • @Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.worldOP
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          Again, not playing your fuck fuck game.

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