Summary

Bill Gates criticized Elon Musk for his support of far-right politicians, including the UK’s Tommy Robinson and Germany’s AfD party, calling it “insane shit” and accusing Musk of destabilizing political systems.

Gates questioned Musk’s focus on divisive politics while managing global businesses like Tesla and SpaceX.

Gates also expressed concern about wealthy individuals influencing foreign elections.

Musk has faced backlash for controversial actions, including a Nazi salute.

  • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    1724 months ago

    I always forget Gates is one of the elite. Then I remember how ruthless and savage he was in the 80s.

    Then I remember.

    • @ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      80s, 90s, and a few years into early 2000s. Gates ruthlessness lasted decades, destroyed many businesses and lives, and is mostly whitewashed thanks to his philanthropic efforts and a few reddit amas and some secret santa participation

      Not to mention the destruction he did to computing as a whole. The nightmare of proprietary bullshit is something that he did not architect but he pushed heavily and lobbied for constantly. He had the position to push for interoperability from an early stake in computing, to set the stage for computers to have a strong precedent to work together. Instead he and microsoft made every effort to work against open standards. They would adopt open standards and extend them with proprietary extensions to intentionally ruin them. A lot of what is infuriating about modern tech can be traced back to precedent that microsoft set at his direction

      Reminder despite every donation he has made his net worth is higher now than it ever was and this has essentially always been the case. His philanthropy, while objectively good, is a measured pr effort that does not impact his overall obscene wealth and basically never has

      • @labbbb2@thelemmy.club
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        His philanthropy, while objectively good, is a measured pr effort that does not impact his overall obscene wealth and basically never has

        Like with the some billionaires.

        • @Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works
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          54 months ago

          Untrue. Most don’t engage in actual philantropy at all, but donate only to causes that will directly benefit their bottom line, such as sectors that depend on their products, or for scholarships in fields where their companies hire heavily. That isn’t actually donating. It’s just tax-exempt investing. In this sense, Gates is a cut above other billionaires.

          His actions merit a freshly sharpened blade on his guillotine. Musk can have the rusty one that we’ll need to drop thrice to get the job done.

      • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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        14 months ago

        His philanthropy, while objectively good,

        I wouldn’t even go that far.

        Say you have a crazy idea that education would be better if kids went to school blindfolded so they wouldn’t be distracted. You then use your vast fortune to arrange for that to be tried out on a bunch of kids for a few years. It’s a disaster. It sets those kids back for years. You realize it’s a disaster, so after a few years you abandon the project.

        In that case was your philanthropy objectively good? Or was it probably bad?

        Those are the kinds of experiments the Gates foundation has done. Because Gates is so insanely rich, he doesn’t have to bother with convincing people he has a good idea. He doesn’t need to run his ideas by education experts or psychologists, he can just run with them. So he does, and he fucks shit up, then he leaves.

      • @jaybone@lemmy.world
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        114 months ago

        Maybe Elon’s mommy will allow him and Zuck to have a chair jumping contest in the octagon.

        • ms.lane
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          94 months ago

          I’d put money on Zuck, he seems like he might be able to jump a chair.

          Shitty Person, but possibly good chair jumper. Maybe Zuck will do a Philanthropy run later in life like Bill?

          • @nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br
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            14 months ago

            If Zuckerberg ever does philanthropy, it will be in a dystopian format where you need to hand over all your personal data to receive the benefits

    • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      And how he fought tooth and nail against generic versions of the covid vaccines being allowed, likely leading to thousands if not millions of deaths and many more getting sick in poorer countries where most people can’t afford name brand drugs.

    • Gloomy
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      -64 months ago

      Yeah, he was a real asshole 44 years ago. Glad people never change at all.

      • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        84 months ago

        TIL that his blocking generic versions of the covid vaccines which led to the deaths of thousands if not millions in poorer countries where most people can’t afford name brand drugs happened 44 years ago 🙄

        • Gloomy
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          14 months ago

          I can only repeat what I said before I anther comment. I’m not defending Gates. Of course there are things he should be criticised for. You bring up one example here.

          What I am saying is, that you should not judge him on what he did four decades ago, but how he is acting today.

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            Of course there are things he should be criticised for. You bring up one example here.

            An example with a body count exceeding that of almost all other people on earth. That’s worthy of far more than just “criticism”.

            If he had been poor and responsible for the same number of avoidable deaths, he would be rightly considered one of history’s greatest monsters.

            What I am saying is, that you should not judge him on what he did four decades ago, but how he is acting today.

            And today he’s acting like a goddamn monster who values property and profits over thousands if not millions of human lives. That’s what I’m judging him for today.

          • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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            34 months ago

            I would call 2020 close enough to today to call it the modern era. So he IS being judged for who he’s recently shown himself to be