• @Arbiter@lemmy.world
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    102 years ago

    I get what he’s saying, but in something as high stakes as this safety needs to be the responsibility of everyone involved.

    There should be as many redundant safety checks as possible.

    • @StarManta@lemmy.world
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      322 years ago

      Actors are not expected to be knowledgeable about weapons. If they are required to check their own weapons, they would not do so competently, and may come to incorrect conclusions. This could add incompetent confusion about the weapon safety to the situation, and that’s bad for safety.

      • @Blamemeta@lemmy.world
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        -62 years ago

        It takes like two minutes to learn how to safely check a gun. Surely they spend more than that learning walking to the set from the parking lot.

        • @CapraObscura@lemmy.world
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          112 years ago

          Safely check WHICH gun?

          The live firing weapon? The blank firing gun? The resin replica? Are they expected to remove any rounds in a firearm, be it live or replica, and verify that it is indeed a blank?

          No. That is ONE person’s job for a reason. That is the firearms expert’s job. Nobody else’s.

          You accept that responsibility with the job.

            • @CapraObscura@lemmy.world
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              112 years ago

              The one in their hand.

              So they need to be trained how to spot the difference between a live and blank round and how to check every firearm on the set.

              OR

              You could just have one person that’s an expert on firearms do that for everyone, thereby eliminating any possibility that an untrained know-nothing actor accidentally lights off a round while fumblefucking with a firearm they know nothing about, trying to check it.

              Hey genius, what good does “checking” a firearm do if they’re literally there to fire off blank rounds?

      • @Liv2themax@lemmy.world
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        -102 years ago

        They don’t even need to know how to check a gun. They just need to follow the safety protocols and not point it at someone. Pointing a real gun, which this was, at something you are not ok destroying is a violation of basic firearms safety, 82nd airborne or not.

    • @InvaderDJ@lemmy.world
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      82 years ago

      I agree, especially if real guns are being used. But what I don’t get is why in this case it would be Baldwin’s fault. If this is industry-wide practice, why was he charged?

      I think the industry needs to change so that for action scenes with real weapons, everyone who touches the weapon gets basic safety and firearms training. Knowing how to hold and operate the weapon, the safety rules, how to check to make sure the weapon is clear, etc.

      • Baldwin’s culpability as an actor lies in how he accepted the gun from the assistant director instead of the armorer and accepted the gun without being present to observe a safety check, something which he should know not to do since he supposedly had the mandatory safety training. The assistant director is not the armorer and is unqualified to declare a gun ”safe/cold". When guns are handed out prior to filming a scene at least 3 parties are supposed to be present to observe a safety check conducted by the armorer. These are the actor, armorer, and the director/an assistant director. The armorer is the qualified expert. The actor should want to know that they’re not about to shoot someone with a real gun and real bullets. And the director/assistant director acts as a representative of the downrange cast and crew. This is supposed to be done every time a gun changes hands on set.