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@Technotica@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world • 6 months ago

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@Technotica@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world • 6 months ago
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  • @pjwestin@lemmy.world
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    I think you’re forgetting the part where Clinton paid off the DNC’s debts and became it’s only financial lifeline, for which DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz abdicated control of party to Clinton’s team long before she secured the nomination.. Or that the AP controversially called the primary for Hillary just before California voted, giving voters the impression the primary was over before voting finished. Or that the DNC argued in court that they had no obligation give Bernie a fair, democratic primary. Or that Representatives Ford and Smith admitted the party did coalesce around Biden in 2020 to block Bernie. Or that polls had Bernie beating Trump by a wider margin than Clinton in 2016 and Biden in 2020.

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      Did you forgot the part where it came down to just bernie vs biden in 2020 and people overwhelmingly voted for biden?

      I like bernie too, but he wasn’t gonna get the pick

      Edit: I have angered the bernie bros

      • @pjwestin@lemmy.world
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        Except it wasn’t just him and Bernie. It was also Warren, so the progressive vote was spit, while the centrist vote was coordinated around Biden. Nice try though!

        • @Butterpaderp@lemmy.world
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          Biden made more than bernie and warren combined in alot of states. If bernie was meant to be, more people would have voted for him, plain and simple.

          • @pjwestin@lemmy.world
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            You’re right, I forgot that Bloomberg was still in and running a campaign entirely designed to block Bernie. Nothing says, “Democracy,” like an oligarch entering an election and using his personal wealth to undermine another candidate, right?

            • @Butterpaderp@lemmy.world
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              Bloomberg was a joke. Can blame it on everything you like, bernie was still never getting presidency in 2020. People picked Biden over him.

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                Oh, I get to blame it on anything I like? Really? Then I’m going to blame it on Democratic party that was actively working against Sanders, a coordinated effort to anoint Biden after he won South Carolina, an actively hostile media, and a billionaire who spent his on money on anti-Bernie ads. There were more headwinds against Bernie in those primaries than there were against Hillary, Biden, and Kamala in the general. Stop pretending that it was just, “people picked Biden,” FFS.

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        All these sources of intentional corruption against someone running to improve the lives of all Americans and not just a select few, and you just go “Hmm, but he was losing according to the media that lied to us, so he lost fair and square.”

        • @Butterpaderp@lemmy.world
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          I see how many people didnt vote for him. How is the media lying about that?

          You could argue that media was against him, but the truth is that people in america just aren’t that progressive. I mean hell, look at how terrible the dem turnout was this year compared to last election.

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            • Refuses to cover his campaign ads
            • Refuses to cover his victories
            • Intentionally leaving him off of nationwide polls when data allow him to be counted (CNN infamous called Sanders “Other Candidate” instead of showing him, but counted Andrew Yang)
            • Slander about him being sexist when he encouraged women to run for office and only started going in 2016 when he asked Warren to run and she declined.
            • Mass media campaign about calling the Jewish senator antisemitic for not being “pro killing children”

            So when the media is against you, people see it as a bad candidate, and don’t vote. Even when he was never a monster, but Trump got more air time saying “Mexicans bring rape”.

          • @pjwestin@lemmy.world
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            Democrats aren’t progressives. Maybe if they were, they wouldn’t lose all the time.

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