• peopleproblems
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    277 months ago

    10 to 30? Yeah I think it might be a lot longer than that.

    Somehow everyone keeps glossing over the fact that you have to have enormous amounts of highly curated data to feed the trainer in order to develop a model.

    Curating data for general purposes is incredibly difficult. The big medical research universities have been working on it for at least a decade, and the tools they have developed, while cool, are only useful as tools too a doctor that has learned how to use them. They can speed diagnostics up, they can improve patient outcome. But they cannot replace anything in the medical setting.

    The AI we have is like fancy signal processing at best

    • RBG
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      137 months ago

      Not an expert so I might be wrong, but as far as I understand it, those specialised tools you describe are not even AI. It is all machine learning. Maybe to the end user it doesn’t matter, but people have this idea of an intelligent machine when its more like brute force information feeding into a model system.

      • @RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        187 months ago

        Don’t say AI when you mean AGI.

        By definition AI (artificial intelligence) is any algorithm by which a computer system automatically adapts to and learns from its input. That definition also covers conventional algorithms that aren’t even based on neural nets. Machine learning is a subset of that.

        AGI (artifical general intelligence) is the thing you see in movies, people project into their LLM responses and what’s driving this bubble. It is the final goal, and means a system being able to perform everything a human can on at least human level. Pretty much all the actual experts agree we’re a far shot from such a system.

    • @ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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      -77 months ago

      LLM’s are not the only type of AI out there. ChatGPT appeared seemingly out of nowhere. Whose to say the next AI system wont do that as well?

      • peopleproblems
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        47 months ago

        ChatGPT did not appear out of nowhere.

        ChatGPT is an LLM that is a generative pre-trained model using a nueral network.

        Aka: it’s a chat bot that creates it’s responses based on an insane amount of text data. LLMs trace back to the 90s, and I learned about them in college in the late 2000s-2010s. Natural Language Processing was a big contributor, and Google introduced some powerful nueral network tech in 2014-2017.

        The reason they “appeared out of nowhere” to the common man is merely marketing.

          • peopleproblems
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            27 months ago

            You said ChatGPT appeared out of nowhere. ChatGPT is basically Eliza with an LLM.

              • peopleproblems
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                47 months ago

                LLM’s are not the only type of AI out there. ChatGPT appeared seemingly out of nowhere. Whose to say the next AI system wont do that as well?

                I’m not sure what I’m misquoting. A large language model is not AI, a large language model is a non-human readable function used by a generative AI algorithm.

                Simply put, ChatGPT did not appear out of nowhere.

                • @ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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                  -57 months ago

                  ChatGPT did not appear out of nowhere

                  I agree.

                  The key word there is seemingly. The technology itself had existed for a long time, but it wasn’t until the massive leap OpenAI made with it that it actually became popular. Before ChatGPT, 99% of people had never heard of LLMs, and now everyone has. That’s what I mean when I say it appeared seemingly out of nowhere - it took the masses by surprise. There’s no reason to assume another company working on a different approach to AI won’t make a similar massive breakthrough, giving us AI far more powerful than LLMs and taking everyone by surprise, despite the base technology having existed for a long time.

                  A large language model is not AI

                  It is AI though - a subset of generative AI to be specific, but it still falls under the AI category.