• TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)
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    1311 year ago

    Wow, imagine where we’d be if Oil and Gas hadn’t convinced almost everyone that solar was never going to work well.

      • @Flipper@feddit.de
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        141 year ago

        The great thing about nuclear power is that the real cost only comes after the power has been generated. How do you store the spent fuel cells and what do you do with the reactor when it can’t be used anymore. Just before that happens you spin the plant into its own company. When that company goes bankrupt the state needs to cover the cost, as it isn’t an option to just leave it out in the open.

        Privatise profit communalism cost.

          • @VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works
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            41 year ago

            The two nearest nuclear plants to me both had to do serious cleanup after problems were discovered, it’s not just the list of big problems people worry about - especially when the nuclear lobby say things like ‘they’re safe as long as they’re run properly and no one cuts corners, but please don’t regulated them properly or they won’t be cost effective’

            Rich people stand to make a monopoly if we’re all dependent on nuclear and they can’t have that monopoly with solar and wind - maybe it’s time to accept a lot of pro nuclear talking points come financially interested parties too.

            • @frezik@midwest.social
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              51 year ago

              especially when the nuclear lobby say things like ‘they’re safe as long as they’re run properly and no one cuts corners, but please don’t regulated them properly or they won’t be cost effective’

              This this this, so much this. Yes, they can be safe. That safety comes with heavy regulation. That makes them incredibly expensive, and once you get there, it’s just not worthwhile anymore.

    • @spyd3r@sh.itjust.works
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      31 year ago

      Imagine where we’d be if leftists embraced nuclear power instead of killing it off everywhere they could.

        • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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          01 year ago

          basically exactly the same situation as we’re in now

          You think if we take away 50 years of burning fossil fuels we’d be in “the same situation as we’re in now”?? Wtf are you smoking?

            • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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              01 year ago

              As if it’s fucking green activists blocking nuclear and not the fossil fuel lobby

              It literally is, though I suspect the greens are the useful stooges of the fossil fuel propaganda.

                • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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                  11 year ago

                  So I quoted this sentence:

                  As if it’s fucking green activists blocking nuclear and not the fossil fuel lobby

                  And then you started talking a bunch of blah blah about renewables, which I will note is NOT in that sentence.

                  And you did not mention nuclear, which I will note is the entire SUBJECT of that sentence.

        • @Crashumbc@lemmy.world
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          -41 year ago

          No, because until we solve the storage issues with electricity. You need a reliable baseline power source in the grid. Solar has 0% cost effectiveness at night. Nuclear is 100 times more environmentally friendly than coal. Even with the long term waste storage issues.

          • bufalo1973
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            31 year ago

            Hydroelectric plants, batteries, generation on site, wave power, geothermal, … There are lots of ways to reduce the need of non renewable energy.

          • @frezik@midwest.social
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            11 year ago

            We’ve basically solved the storage issues through about eighty different methods that have various applicability in different situations. They just need to be scaled up at this point.

            It’s actually better. No traditional power plant can match demand exactly, and large amounts of power are wasted as a result. A wind+solar+storage solution can match demand very close. This means we don’t need to replace every GWh of coal and gas with a GWh of renewable. The lack of wasted power takes off a pretty big chunk.

      • @Syrc@lemmy.world
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        121 year ago

        Here in Italy, the only parties that seem to be favorable to nuclear are right-wing.

        And of course, they got elected and didn’t actually do anything towards it.

        • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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          41 year ago

          Never trust right-wingers to do literally anything.

          If a right wing party promises to take all the money from the rich and redistribute it to the poor, they’re lying.

          If a right wing party promises to invest in public transit, they’re lying.

          If a right wing party promises to pass a law enshrining LGBTQ rights, they’re lying.

          They’re just a bunch of fucking liars, all they exist for is to make rich people richer.

          • @Syrc@lemmy.world
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            31 year ago

            Oh, I trust them to do everything I wouldn’t like them to do.

            For example, so far they’ve been following through with removing LGBTQ rights and lowering taxes for the rich, just as they promised.