For me, it’s pretty clear that police and prisons reinforce class society and are things that factor into proletarianization. Therefore there can be no socialism without abolition. A corollary states that socialist projects that reinstituted police and prisons (gulags and checka anyone?) couldn’t be socialist because by using police and prisons it reinforced proletarianization and class relations.
What do you think?
Who are the abolitionists you follow? By using the word “follow” I’m guessing you’re talking about highly visible or well-known abolitionists, but correct me if I’m wrong.