Looks like a False Parasol in my eyes, though remote ID is a bit hard of course.

Why? The edible Parasol is usually brown with a dark brown underside, has flakes at the cap and stem, and the ring is detachable.
But don’t trust my impression alone please, I’m no ID expert!

Maybe consider buying hardware with better Linux support in the future, e.g. getting an AMD GPU instead of a Nvidia if you want to get a new one anyway.

I personally have zero issues with my (relatively normal) setup. Even more, I have better hardware support on Linux than on Windows! For example, I noticed that I can dim my monitor, which doesn’t work on Windows!
Or, my GPU is more silent, because Bazzite and the Linux kernel ship some tweaks that make the energy draw and fan curve more efficient in my experience.

Again, I think it’s just your hardware, especially the multi monitor. Multi monitor is supposed to be fine on AMD (can’t confirm, I only have one ultra wide), or single/ dual monitor is also supposed to be almost great on Nvidia, with the proprietary drivers.

If you have a spare laptop with proper Linux support (most ones do, even with Nvidia, Surface, etc.) consider installing it and just try it out. uBlue (Aurora/ Bluefin, Bazzite, etc.) is great for that, so, maybe check that out.

If not, then we’ll welcome you again in a few years. The OS is just a tool, use the best suited one for your use case. In yours, it may be Windows currently.

+1 for Fedora Atomic.
Especially Bazzite comes with Nvidia drivers already built in and everything should just werk™.
It’s very modern and reliable. If it doesn’t work with that, nothing will.

To be fair, the use case is very demanding. Just 2 years ago, we were glad that we can play more than one game on Steam, and now, we’re complaining that our triple monitor setup with Nvidia and VRR/HDR doesn’t work perfectly. I’m happy we’re at this point, but some things, like that, may hinder the wide spread adoption…

For one thing, image based distros are very convenient. If you tell someone “Just install Bazzite”, they will probably have a nice gaming experience without any tinkering, because everything is already set up for you ootb.

You have to understand the concept first. Fedora Atomic/ image based distros are built from top to bottom, not on the same level. If something changes from “above”, your install will change too, to an 1:1 copy basically.
Problem is, if stock Fedora isn’t allowed to ship/ doesn’t have some things pre-installed, it’s harder to iron out on the user level, e.g. by negatively affecting update times.

uBlue is basically a “build script”, that takes the upstream image, modifies it, and redistributes that with the changes included.
In that way, the image from other users is the same as yours, with the same bugs.
This makes it more efficient and user friendly.

It also allows devs to make their “own” distro with only their changes included, while offering a very solid base they don’t have to maintain themselves.

Thanks for your answer.

This may sound harsh, but I’m glad I’m on Fedora Atomic. Suse sounds a bit shitty/ not much better than the regular edition.

As distro desktop hopper, the ability to rebase to other spins is one major aspect of using Atomic, and I use it all the time.

Please tell me more about OpenSuse Kalpa/ Aeon/ MicroOS.

I’m a huge fan of Fedora Atomic, but find Suse interesting as well.

What are the differences between the two?

• Layering packages (rpm-ostree alternative?)
• Are updates still reproducible and atomic?
• What is the difference between Tumbleweed and Kalpa? You named snapshots. Are they different from Snapper?
• Can you rebase between Aeon and Kalpa?
• Why Suse and not Fedora?

Yeah, of course it is. I use it too for 3D-modeling, image editing and more.

For general purpose, it’s pretty normal. Its’ main advantages really only shine in gaming stuff.

But, to be fair, I don’t know if the tweaks optimised for gaming don’t negatively affect other stuff. I didn’t notice anything yet, but you can’t be sure.

It can be, but for that, I would rather recommend Aurora or Bluefin. They are almost the same, but without gaming stuff.

I use Bazzite on my gaming PC, and Aurora on my media laptop. I’m extremely happy with both.

Just use Bazzite. It updated automatically to F40 just a few hours after upstream, still has all security settings intact and is a joy to use.

Maybe give Aurora a chance.
It’s basically a slightly altered variant of Kinoite with many QoL-changes and additions.

And there’s also Bazzite, which is the same, but for gaming purposes.

They belong to the uBlue-family, which is one of the coolest things ever in the Linux world for me

Flatpak?

Compared to Bazzite, there shouldn’t be (m)any differences. You can see Bazzite just as a gaming-oriented Bluefin

they have done away with OS-tree? Because that would make this entirely based on FlatPaks and no other options, which is a huge block for me.

I don’t understand exactly what you mean with that, but I think you are afraid of any restrictions.

• uBlue (Bluefin, Bazzite, etc.) is still Fedora Atomic, just like Silverblue. It’s just that they take the OG image, rebuild it based on some instructions, and then redistribute it. It still has OSTree and all other stuff.
• You aren’t set on Flatpak, but you definitely should use it on image based distros. Flatpaks are great and convenient, that’s why they’re getting more and more popular, also for devs. Because of that, the default (and only) way of installing apps via software center is Flatpak. If you don’t like that, you can still use Distrobox (e.g. with Pacman, DNF, etc.), Nix, Brew, or any other package manager you like, b but that’s more for CLI-users.
• I mostly work graphically, but if I have to do some CLI stuff, then I enter my Arch-Distrobox. I never encountered any problems or restrictions there tbh
• And you can still layer (install rpm packages on the host system) via rpm-ostree if you really need it, but it’s not recommended and only there for essential stuff. Use containers instead.

If you are like myself and use your PC mainly for gaming, and your laptop just for casual use (watching videos, writing notes, etc.), then you can also take a look at Bluefin (Gnome) or Aurora (KDE).

It’s a “replacement” for the stock Fedora Silverblue/ Kinoite with QoL stuff and on the spectrum between Bazzite (“bloated”) and the uBlue base image (extremely lean, missing a few standard apps by default) and gives you the choice between “I’m a casual user” (-> only what you need) and the “developer edition”, which includes some IDEs and stuff.

I like it a lot and think of it as “Bazzite, without gaming stuff”. Maybe you’ll like it too!

@babara@lemmy.ml
The difference with Fedora Atomic, which I think you refer to, is that it’s totally open. For example, people started using the OCI containers differently than Fedora intended, which resulted in uBlue and stuff like Bazzite.

Also, no one forces you to use Flatpak. You can still use Distrobox and use Pacman/ APT/ DNF/ whatever you prefer and export your apps that way. It’s just that Flatpak “won” and doesn’t have many drawbacks, and is very convenient. I mostly like them.

And, most importantly, Fedora is the fronteer of innovation.
There were many projects and ideas that failed, but many more succedded (Wayland, image based distros, etc.), and Project Atomic is just one more “testing ground” that is well thought out imo. Therefore people are expecting to “test out” new generation Linux stuff, it’s just part of Fedora. If you don’t like that, use Debian instead.

I can recommend you to give Fedora Atomic a chance, it’s an extremely nice family of distros (e.g. Bluefin/ Aurora, Bazzite, etc.)!

Edit: one more thing is that Fedora is, in contrast to Ubuntu, not controlled by a company. RedHat doesn’t have nearly as much influence as people think, it’s mainly community driven, and therefore choices aren’t (in theory) influenced by $$$

You could give the uBlue builder a shot, which can do exactly that.

But I think NixOS is a better choice for a tinkerer like you :)

It won’t transform the old device into a gaming beast, but if you do some lighter gaming with it, why not just try it? :)
If you don’t like it or want something more vanilla/ general purpose, you can always rebase to other Fedora Atomic variants, e.g. Silverblue, Kinoite, uBlue community images (Secureblue, Deepin, etc.) anytime you want! This changes the “flavor” (basically like switching from Linux Mint to Kubuntu by reinstall) without loosing any data or settings with one command. It’s so fucking great!

What else? :D

I sadly can’t give you any input or help, but I really appreciate your idea and, coincidentally, thought about the exact same thing today 😁

I think a more stable (slower release) variant of Fedora Atomic would be absolutely great for people who don’t like change as much as current Fedora users.

A more conservative variant would be great, especially for companies.
The combination of a stable system (in terms of update frequency and changes) with the unbreakability and deployability would be a huge win.

Imagine being the admin of a small company, class or department and just creating your own uBlue-image with all software your team needs and rebase a dozen PCs to that image. Would be awesome!

I think, currently, Fedora is sometimes too experimental and leading edge, which might be a problem for some people, especially in the business world. Having a more stable variant would be great.

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