If you have an example of anything at this level of authoritarian that the US has done in the past 50 years, please let me know, because I’m an American and would likely be kept intentionally uninformed about it.
I mean if you’re citing Tiananmen, I’d recommend that you read the messages and reports that came out of the US embassy during and following the event.
They tell a rather different story than what’s commonly spread today and base it off of actual first-hand eyewitness testimony. It’s not by any means “Deng Xiaoping did nothing wrong,” but it’s extremely different from what’s on Wikipedia.
Jesus fucking christ are you denying the massacre? There are dozens of photos of mangled bodies and pulpified smears of remains. It’s absolute horrific.
They aren’t wrong though. The media has long lost the truth about what actually happened that day. Here you can read a piece by a journalist who was the Beijing correspondent for the Washington Post at the time.
In the US, 0.7% of the population is in prison. That’s nearly one out of every hundred citizens and the highest per capita of incarcerated citizens in the world. Higher than Russia, higher than China, higher than North Korea.
Does that include the Xinjiang internment camps, and are you really trusting the CCP’s official statistics on anything knowing how badly they lied during the first year of COVID?
I’m not saying China is great. I’m saying I’m sceptical of a country that throws it’s military power around the world whilst they simultaneously tell us who the enemy is.
Last time I checked the Chinese didn’t kill 400K+ civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan or sponsor the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.
Does your comment count as “moving the goalposts” (changing the subject from CCP to USA) or an “Appeal to Emotion” (dead civilians) or a strawman argument (USA ‘sponsors’ collective punishment)? I got a bingo card to fill out.
In the US, people vote on laws, and the laws that put so many people in prison were massively popular until we realized “oh fuck there sure are a lot of people in prison and this problem isn’t solved at all.”
I’ll take people democratically getting things wrong 100% of the time over “authoritarian regime that hasn’t come for you yet”
So yes, land of the free, and free people sometimes do dumb shit.
This is a description of actual events that actually happened. Nothing in my comment is an interpretation of anything whatsoever.
If you don’t believe War on Drugs laws like the Crime Bill were popular, that’s simply because you’ve done no research. The 1994 bill now seen as “racist” had 58% support in the minority community, a trend that continued for some time.
The cool thing about democracy is people can look around and say “oh shit we fucked up.” All you have to do is change enough minds.
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and yet authoritarian China is more reactive to feedback from the people than democratic America
odd, that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–2020_Hong_Kong_protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square
If you have an example of anything at this level of authoritarian that the US has done in the past 50 years, please let me know, because I’m an American and would likely be kept intentionally uninformed about it.
I mean if you’re citing Tiananmen, I’d recommend that you read the messages and reports that came out of the US embassy during and following the event.
They tell a rather different story than what’s commonly spread today and base it off of actual first-hand eyewitness testimony. It’s not by any means “Deng Xiaoping did nothing wrong,” but it’s extremely different from what’s on Wikipedia.
Jesus fucking christ are you denying the massacre? There are dozens of photos of mangled bodies and pulpified smears of remains. It’s absolute horrific.
Ccp shill
They aren’t wrong though. The media has long lost the truth about what actually happened that day. Here you can read a piece by a journalist who was the Beijing correspondent for the Washington Post at the time.
https://archives.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php
US embassy doesn’t lie
The US embassy doesn’t lie
Brand new account + ratio + Tianenmen square denier
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CCP Shill
Remember: It’s okay when the US does it.
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And plenty of people think it’s okay when the US does it.
What’s your point?
And plenty of people think the CCP’s behaviour is ok. Both groups are capable of being simultaneously wrong.
both groups wrong? sounds dubious to me, you’re probably just a shill for whichever side i’m not on.
Remember: There are CCP apologists among us.
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In the US, 0.7% of the population is in prison. That’s nearly one out of every hundred citizens and the highest per capita of incarcerated citizens in the world. Higher than Russia, higher than China, higher than North Korea.
Land of the free indeed. Propaganda works.
Does that include the Xinjiang internment camps, and are you really trusting the CCP’s official statistics on anything knowing how badly they lied during the first year of COVID?
I’m not saying China is great. I’m saying I’m sceptical of a country that throws it’s military power around the world whilst they simultaneously tell us who the enemy is.
Last time I checked the Chinese didn’t kill 400K+ civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan or sponsor the collective punishment of the Palestinian people.
Does your comment count as “moving the goalposts” (changing the subject from CCP to USA) or an “Appeal to Emotion” (dead civilians) or a strawman argument (USA ‘sponsors’ collective punishment)? I got a bingo card to fill out.
Is there a section about “trust issues”?
In the US, people vote on laws, and the laws that put so many people in prison were massively popular until we realized “oh fuck there sure are a lot of people in prison and this problem isn’t solved at all.”
I’ll take people democratically getting things wrong 100% of the time over “authoritarian regime that hasn’t come for you yet”
So yes, land of the free, and free people sometimes do dumb shit.
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This is a description of actual events that actually happened. Nothing in my comment is an interpretation of anything whatsoever.
If you don’t believe War on Drugs laws like the Crime Bill were popular, that’s simply because you’ve done no research. The 1994 bill now seen as “racist” had 58% support in the minority community, a trend that continued for some time.
The cool thing about democracy is people can look around and say “oh shit we fucked up.” All you have to do is change enough minds.
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Is that better or worse than being shot because you’re a kid that went to school?
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i live here in a police state with like 4 times as many cops than teachers
Seeems chill 🌶 except for the food 🍲
lol
They literally said the stereotypical lib thing lmao
Since when? Lol
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