Windows 10 gets three more years of security updates, if you can afford them::Windows 10 gets a version of the program that extended updates for Windows 7.
That’s the day I get Linux, I guess.
I upgraded my Surface Pro 3’s to Kubuntu just this week. Should have done it ages ago. They run faster and cooler now.
I’ve read there’s an issue with the camera. How’s it working out for you?
Linux distro version depositories are deleted after 2 years.
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And you can’t possibly see any relevance huh.
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This is literally a discussion about operating systems, and how Windows is about to do something that will directly push people into needing or choosing a new one. Even without Lemmy’s culture this is an obvious time to mention Linux. You can bitch and cry and screech all you want, but you’re the one getting your panties in a bunch when Linux is literally on topic here.
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Except thats not how discussions work.
People dont JUST strictly talk about the thing at hand and ONLY that. They bring up related things as well. Like Linux and how its an alternative to Windows 10 once it’s support period is up.
Kind of like how someone might bring up the SNES in a discussion about the PS5 to make some kind of relevant point. Like how far consoles have come from the SNES to the PS5 or a game library comparison. Or something.
If there’s something stupid that Apple does, people will talk about using Windows or Android instead. You’re the weird one for getting angry about something that’s completely expected.
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Look, if you can’t handle that people here like Linux, you’re probably better off just leaving the site altogether and going to somewhere like Reddit. Lemmy is FOSS, which is the main ethos behind Linux.
You’re like the kid who goes into a McDonalds and then complains that they don’t serve fois gras there. What the fuck did you expect? It’s a fucking McDonald’s. They’re not gonna have that shit there.
Also, it would help you out in your future if you understood the difference between people liking something and talking about it on their own with others and “shoving it down your throat”.
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Why are people making a huge deal out of this? Win10 was released in 2015, and support ends in 2025. That’s 10 years of support, I don’t think this is unreasonable for a consumer product by any means.
As far as industry goes it’s a bit short, but nothing catastrophic. There’s plenty of xp machines still running just fine in many places. Lack of security updates is less crucial for most of these applications since they’re often not required to be connected to internet.
I can’t upgrade to Windows 11 (not that I’d want to considering all their enshittification), so they’re leaving me with an unsecured OS. I survive on £160 a month so, no, I won’t be paying for fucking security updates, instead I’ll be switching to Linux and literally never considering using Windows again.
It’s also not reasonable to expect updates forever. No matter what, support for software always stops at some point, and 10 years of support is pretty reasonable for consumer products. Not great, but also not terrible.
Normally sure, but maybe Microsoft shouldn’t have tried saying windows 10 was the last windows version, to then release a new version that a lot of people can’t even upgrade their current PCs to.
You realize Linux distros also charge for extended support right?
For Enterprise Editions.
Because windows 11 is ass
Good thing you don’t even need to think about switching for another two years then.
Because you think they should pay more for a product they already bought or because privacy and security are not important?
Because you think they should pay more for a product they already bought or because privacy and security are not important?
I said they didn’t have to think bout it for another two years…none of what you’re saying makes sense in relation to that. Its good they don’t need to worry about it (yet), because the issues it may cause them is still far away.
Two years isn’t that long, and in 2 years Windows 11 will still be ass.
I’m on Linux, I’m not even relevant to this conversation.
Even less of an issue then, why the fuck care if Win11 sucks ass when you’re not even part of their customer base.
Ironically, I am invested in Windows sucking ass, because it means more Linux users.
Because it works perfectly fucking fine and people are using it and windows upgrades are more effort than not upgrading. That’s really it.
🙄 yeah it’s like they’ve gone an written an entirely incompatible desktop with earlier versions with little upgrade path and filled to the brim with incompatibility!
Oh, that’s Wayland?
Well it’s not like every other commercially supported OS has an eol with posts support!
Oh that’s the entire model to support rhel, Debian, etc… I see.
Technologically, Window is great. There is no denying that, and if anything some the dated (+ insecure) things on it is the result of its own success, i.e. the app installation and management process, as it is hard to convince billions of people to do anything different.
On the other hand, the management of the company is the biggest problem with everything in and around Window. First, there is no single business model; MS sells you a 1 time licence for the OS itself, but then constantly try to harvest and sell your data (with ads everywhere in Windows 11), and if you want to do any office work then you have to pay a subscription for MS 365. Last but not least, they keep breaking things every few updates, i.e. I actually failed one of my university course because OneDrive decided that my report don’t need to exist after an update (in 2018).
That’s 10 years of support
I work on an OS whose oldest in-service major release will finally go deprecated in its TWENTY-SEVENTH year of life.
We’re not getting upset at a mere decade. 10 years is kinda cute.
I think people are posse dat the boeing-like “safety is an add-on” mentality that sells security patches like a “don’t nose in” feature on a max8.
What OS?
Congrats on being in a low functioning desktop niche environment which is probably unusable for most users. Nearly every distro has an eol.
Nearly every distro has an eol.
For Enterprise Editions.
As far as industry goes it’s a bit short
Industry standard is 5-6 years of support. After that, you replace the PC anyway.
Really depends on the industry I guess…we meet a lot of old XP and Win7 machines when visiting sites. Engineering stations rarely get updated unless the hardwares breaks, and a lot of software used to service the machines/production line from the engineering station often don’t run on a never OS.
This community hates Microsoft. They just want to shout about them while ignoring paid support for extended life Linux.
I suspect that despite not supporting it with security updates, the juicy telemetry will still be collected and sold to data brokers.
They just want to shout about them while ignoring paid support for extended life Linux.
Ironically, you’re just shouting about linux while ignoring the context behind the paid support for “extended life linux”
The paid support is for enterprise linux distros like Red Hat. This support is aimed at businesses. Not regular end users.
Regular users can get Long Term Support (LTS) versions of regular distros entirely free. Such as Ubuntu’s LTS versions. With the cool addition of being able to freely move to the next LTS version whenever that comes out to replace the current LTS version.
How long is Ubuntu lts supported? Oh 10 years? And how old will Windows 10 be in 25? 10 years old?!!! WEIRD!
At least you don’t have to pay for the next LTS version of ubuntu. Nor do you have to meet daft hardware requirements to upgrade to the next LTS. You can just seamlessly upgrade to the next LTS version.
Unlike Windows.
Windows 10 LTSC IoT + a certain mass grave script or whatever has got you covered until 2032.
What’s in 2032?
EOL for Win10 LTSC
The year 2032 problem.
Welp, time for online security across the world to be destroyed! No one is going to pay that
related: https://lemmy.world/post/9194097
I’m not gonna pay for updates, I’m just stick with my old win 7 untill the end. Glad i take the right decision to full backup 8 years ago
Although i never got updates or can run modern apps anymore, at least i got very stable & less annoying windowsgod i really hope this is either a joke or a backup computer that has no access to the Internet
