- cross-posted to:
- privacy@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- privacy@lemmy.ml
So far I really like it, anyone else using it? I’m really considering setting up the discord bridge and just using revolt
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It’s not decentralized and e2ee is not implemented.
+1 for this
Matrix https://matrix.org is a decentralized alternative
there’s a wrapper for matrix Rocket Chat (a wrapper of matrix) https://www.rocket.chat/
Sometimes a public utility doesn’t need to be decentralized to function effectively
It helps, but also the lack of e2ee is a pretty hard sell…
then let me introduce you to IRC
Then Mastodon are not for you either. Nothing is stored encrypted there.
Mastodon is not a real time chat
Nope, it’s not. But Revolt and Mastodon share the same gimmic: no encryption. Why (as far as I know)? You can install these 2 on your own server, making you own your data and also handling the data. E2EE will not be important in that case (according to me). However, encryption (not E2EE) are important in any service.
Revolt and Mastodon aren’t even in the same ball park.
Nope, I know :) I just stated the encryption likeness between those 2. If the user don’t like and refuse to use Revolt because it’s not E2EE by default, then the user would have the same oppinion towards Mastodon. That’s all. Nothing more.
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Also just to clarify, we do think e2ee for direct messages on Mastodon would be awesome. Maybe unlisted posts, but I’m not sure how that’d work. Still, like they said, Mastodon is a public-first platform.
Honestly it’s just going from one bad app host (discord) to another that could be less bad but still has all your data (revolt). You can host your own revolt server but you won’t be able to join any of revolts servers. Matrix is just plain better for privacy and security. I do like to see more alternatives out there tho
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Such is life being on the internet, really.
You couldn’t stop it even on IRC. At least here you can host your own Matrix instance.
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Why not Element/Matrix?
Revolt is simple and works almost exactly the same as Discord. Element requires understanding federation, and it’s “spaces” feature is not the same as Discord “servers”.
Really wish that IRC allowed to have all the new bells and whistles that Discord has. Avatars, in-line images and videos, streaming rooms, etc…
matrix?
Is matrix not a separate protocol?
How is it different from discord?
way different, it’s open source
- Doesn’t track you like discord does to remain “free”
- You audit the code for security and privacy issues
- You can self-host or fork the code for yourself if you ever need to build a backup because some idiot decided to purchase the original revolt project and decided to screw with it
- It has an open source license so the software can never be privatized, it’s essentially a public utility; for everyone by everyone
Our Story:
The Revolt project originally started back in 2019 by a group of three students from the United Kingdom and the Czech Republic, looking for an alternative to the already emerging, closed-source chat platforms. Our main focus for the project was to create an open-source, completely compromise-free platform that offered all of the same features and competed against other chat apps
- Revolt is made with collaborative effort, and if you like coding it makes it so if you can to try and code stuff to add custom functionality or plugins or whatever else. Like a public utility you can add to it and develop it communally, though in this case it would be a public utility serving a public with a population of just you. But because of the GPL license Revolt uses, it makes it so that you need to share your changes. Whatever form the source code takes, it remains a public utility until perpetuity.
I’d like to know, too. Especially considering most servers I’m on are unlikely to switch.
yet another other miserable attempt at doing IRC
It has been a long time since I used IRC, but or it has changed a lot or it’s not similar.
Could you send inline images? Could you assign granular permission and roles ? Can have several rooms with access and visibility control of each of them? Can you make audio rooms? Can you react to mensages?
Right. Discord, Revolt, Guilded etc. are heavily inspired by IRC but they modernized it by adding more features. Right now they are so much more than IRC.
I’ve never had the need for any of those things. A text-only chat is a cleaner and better chat. Specially reactions, those are rather absurd and irritating.
Audio is definitely a different use case, and Mumble works great for that. You can just host both on the same domain and be done with it. You could even write a client that supports both IRC and Mumble if you wanted to, instead of constantly reinventing the wheel.
And I’m sure you could implement in-line images in IRC if you wanted, after all Twitch’s chat is IRC and they have images.
With centralization and prebuilt integration’s disadvantages comes extreme convenience. And I like sending images of random things I see and would like to share.
Sounds nice but we all know the majority won’t make the switch from Discord so it’s sadly but most probably a stillbirth.
What communities are there on Revolt? Anything big? Like GrapheneOS, Linux Mint, Signal, Monero?
I know that Matrix has their communities.
