- Leadership knew that the taliban was not responsible for 9/11 but entered the country anyway. Unlike Iraq, there is no oil in Afghanistan. There was no strategic value in conquering this country other than intimidating other countries not to fuck with the states.
- USA spends 39% of global spending on military but has only 4% of the population.
- Vietnam is the most bombed country in the world.
- The US has caused so much suffering, instated dictators like Pinochet, fueled proxy wars in Latin America and in the middle-east, they even funded the taliban in the 80s.
- American foreign policy is insane and USA is a terrorist state.
change my mind internet.
edit: spelling
This just reduces the usefulness of the word ‘terrorist’, which, principally implies statelessness.
Statebased terrorist actions is an oxymoronic term. If a “terrorist” organization has state backing, by definition, its no longer a terrorist org. Authoritarian, fascist, militaristic, genocidal, racist, and on and on, sure. But keep definitions meaningful.
OP specifically says “terrorist state”
Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of intentional violence and fear to achieve political or ideological aims. I think that USA fits the bill. Let’s not discuss semantics. As OP, I want to focus this post on how if you can change my mind on US Foreign policy which to me is pretty fucked up.
Every state is a terrorist state, then. There isn’t a single one that doesn’t use state-funded officials to keep either the locals or foreigners under some kind of control due to threat of or actual conflict of some kind.
Slight correction Vietnam is not the most bombed country - Cambodia is. Same war, same reason, but on the other side of the border. Henry Kissinger is a war criminal.
I would not argue in favor of the crimes that the US has committed and I wish the leadership was held accountable for its crimes. However, I will definitely prefer a US hegemony, if there is a better alternative on the offering right now I will be the first to support it.
The motivation for invading Afghanistan was to build an oil pipeline from the Caspian Sea to the Indian Ocean. Talks with the Taliban broke down a few months prior and the plans were drawn up for the invasion.
Those plans were then followed when a decent enough excuse to do so was allowed to occur. This is why Al Queda were able to escape en masse to Pakistan.
Vietnam is the most bombed country in the world.
And yet, according to polling:
As you correctly say the US bombed them intensively. The US also committed untold war crimes.
Why do the Vietnamese see the US in such a positive light? Why are the communist government seeking closer (military) ties with the US?
Duh doy
That military spending and heavy-handedness are the main reasons you’re not currently living under a Chinese or Russian boot barely subsisting on low quality food in a cold crumbling commieblock on roach patrol.
We get surveilled just as much as people in Russia and China do
I disagree, the US factually spies on its citizens but china goes way beyond. I don’t think the US logs every piece of dissent and destroys your credit score with it.
Agricultural society is a terrorist state
