So, until recently, I have been using https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/blob/master/hosts.txt

However, as some issues that I have opened have shown, there are a bunch of left wing and progressive sites on this list ( https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/issues ). I no longer think that it is trustworthy. Especially after reading some of the repo owners replies. Intentionally added was t.me which is a generic url for any telegram group. Discordapp.com was on it at one point.

Oy Vey. It’s clear to me that the owner of this repo is not actually spending much time actually curating this list and instead it’s just a shotgun approach. Does anyone know of a good alternative?

  • @lonewalk@lemm.ee
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    sorry for the potentially dumb remark but… couldn’t you just avoid navigating to QAnon websites? I’ve never had an issue unintentionally navigating to one. It also seems like this repo owner is quite opinionated and trying to create a “no bad sites” filter list, which… honestly, you can control your own destiny with web browsing.

    if this is to protect kids on your network, I think it’s probably a good idea to have a broader conversation with them about evaluating sources, tell them about media bias checking sites, and just generally educating them on red flags to distrust. This will probably serve them much better than trying to block right wing sites, especially since plenty of normal websites have harmful right wing content. YouTube in particular disseminates extremely misleading and harmful material via ads (lots of anti-trans hate speech).

    In any case, I can’t find another repo - if you need the filter still, maybe you could fork the list yourself, and remove anything that you don’t find objectionable? (again, I feel like this is an example of why to not rely on a third party to block websites based off opinion/politics)

  • @Stillhart@lemm.ee
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    To be fair, last I checked, commondreams was so far to the left, they fell right off the flat earth. I consider myself pretty progressive and a lot of the stuff I saw from that site made me roll my eyes and go “this is where people get those crazy ideas about progressives having crazy ideas!”

    Anyways, it’s been a few years since I paid any attention to them so maybe they’re not so cringe anymore.

  • Areldyb [he/him]
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    I use that list as well as the ones at https://github.com/antifa-n/pihole/ (though they haven’t been updated in years). I also use OpenDNS upstream to block their “Hate/Discrimination” category (among others).

    I’ve been pretty happy with this setup, but I would welcome alternatives/additional blocklists.

  • mintyfrog
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    Doesn’t it sound at least a little bit foolish to trust someone else to intentionally censor the politics of your internet? You’re creating your own echo chamber.

    How can you understand and disagree with the other side if you can’t even read their content? I’m not even talking about hate groups, I’m talking basics like WikiLeaks and the NRA.

    • Storksforlegs
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      No, it’s not ‘creating an echo chamber’ to avoid the discussions of a deranged cult.

      • mintyfrog
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        Labeling the opposition as a deranged cult that must be censored doesn’t exactly sound anti-fascist to me. Again, not talking about hate groups here or anyone that advocates for violence.

        • Storksforlegs
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          Perhaps you are not familiar with qanon and their beliefs, but they are not ‘the opposition’. And they do advocate for violence, frequently.

          • mintyfrog
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            Perhaps you’re not familiar with this blocklist and how it doesn’t exclusively include QAnon sources, as I indicated.

            No list can exclusively contain QAnon sources. It isn’t possible. You’re relying on someone else or a group of people to make that determination. In doing so, you’re blocking non-QAnon sources that you may just happen to disagree with. They also block far-right sites as described in the Github. How far to the right does the site have to be to be blocked? You’ve now created an echo chamber by blocking the opposition, all because you trusted that a list called “no-qanon” only blocked QAnon.

    • Scary le PooOP
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      Everyone is susceptible to misinformation, information silos, and bad arguments. Someone who claims that they are not susceptible to these things is the most susceptible.

      You can view it as efficiency. Something coming from a qanon source is going to be garbage, so you’re saving yourself the time of having it be in your view.

      • mintyfrog
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        Even if what you’re saying is true, you’re now relying on someone else (or a group of people) to censor sites you wouldn’t like and also not be susceptible to those things when creating this blocklist. You’re ignoring the risks associated with false positives. You can’t outsource your own critical thinking.

      • Shaolin Shrimp
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        Well both are suspected to be influenced by Russia, with the goal of undermining the west.

        • mintyfrog
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          Name a major media outlet that hasn’t been suspected to be influenced by Russia.

      • mintyfrog
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        Nope. The linked list does. Check the URLs. WikiLeaks is blocked.

  • phillaholic
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    I’d rather be able to filter these topics from sites like Lemmy, I’ll never actually go to them. I’m curious what you’re really trying to accomplish.