• ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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    He didn’t make a joke he just referred to Mao as some Chinese dictator when talking about the meme.

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    No, no, you don’t understand. China is most free, best country. Please consult happy chart.

    See? Bar is higher.

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      Just like elections and sociology in Russia! They are such a good couple!

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      I dont get how they get so sassy about something so trivial. There is even one calling this “racist”… i may laugh here about them, but tankies are scary

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        It is the propaganda machine (or, machines, both chinese and russian ones, though this one called out the chinese). Right now, they are very active, trying to get the citizens of the USA, to not vote in their election.

        You can spot them even in this chain, not only throwing those short accusations, but writing those longer and longer responses, trying to bait people to answer, to tire them out, to get to spread their propaganda, and to get more visibility. They will also downvote discussions like these, so it is also easy to tell, when they are around. And everything negative said against Chinese government, is a psy-op by CIA, or people being racist, colonialists, nazis, supporting genocide in Gaza etc… for some reason especially the chinese ones seem to like the Gaza-blaming. I guess it is a sore point for many people, to be accused of supporting that genocide, which then gets the discussion derailed from what China does, as they get enraged.

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          It is the propaganda machine (or, machines, both chinese and russian ones

          And everything negative said against Chinese government, is a psy-op by CIA

          The absolute irony lmao.

          Claiming that anyone voicing positive ideas about a country is a paid actor? Obvious facts. Claiming that anyone voicing negative ideas about a country is a paid actor? Deranged conspiracy theory. So deranged and so conspiratorial that it in fact proves that my deranged conspiracy theory obvious facts about them must be true.

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    How are they so thin-skinned? You’d think tankies would have thick, armoured skin, like a… Well, like a … rhinoceros 🦏

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    The encapsulation of Mao:

    “If the worst came to the worst and half of mankind died [in nuclear war], the other half would remain while imperialism would be razed to the ground and the whole world would become socialist.”

    Zapp Brannigan revolutionary with no plans beyond bravado. There was/is no universe where a nuclear holocaust ends in sunshine and roses instead of the (functionally) permanent crippling of the human race. That lack of critical thought is still infecting leftist conversation today: vastly underestimating the cost and implications of actions and relying on blind appeals to moral determinism.

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    Mbappe is just one of the latest personalities who have to literally apologize to Mainland China, as the chunk of their income is much derived from whatever products and services they’re selling (or pandering) to the Mainlanders.

    At this stage and no thanks to the United States whose capitalists offloaded manufacturing and even technological capability to the Middle Kingdom because cheaper labor and less oversight – and now Trump’s lunatic self-destructing regime changing much of the developing world beginning with killing USAID – China is so much of a greater hegemonic capitalist power now that it has developed its own brand of “cancel culture” where some millions of Mainland Chinese who are well-to-do consumers but also nationalistic, can afford to vote with their wallets and thus humiliate anyone who dares to insult their country.

    This is the Mainland China of Xi Jinping that can say no.

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    If it can be destroyed by the truth, it should be destroyed by the truth

    This message brought to you by Tiananmen Square

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    This isn’t what happened as far as I can tell. He just lost ads and sponsorships after calling Mao a dictator online. Is that what “some Chinese broadcasters” is supposed to mean?

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    Imagine opposing fascism while supporting the one guy that was worse than hitler.

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      Hitler intentionally killed about 5% of noncombatants in Nazi-controlled areas of Europe. We aren’t including soldiers at all. Under Mao, around 2.5% of China died in famines that could be partially attributed to aggressive industrialization. Arguing that Mao was worse for mismanaging industrialization than someone that industrialized mass murder to deliberately kill “undesirables” is horrendous historiography. It isn’t a coincidence that Mao is near universally loved in China while Hitler is near universally hated in Europe.

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      Their censorship isn’t working anymore. The walls are breaking down, people are using VPNs, and Chinese people are talking to us on western social media sites. They can still believe it’s all western propaganda lies, but they can’t hide from the truth anymore.

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      what metric for seriousness would you choose instead?

      because providing healthcare, clean electric power and high speed rail would be pretty fucking nice if we could get some here.

      meanwhile we have trump, using ice at the polls… seriously democratic shit there.

      not a fan of china, but I do wish we had their solar and rail outputs…

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          lol… have you seen the press here bending the knee over and over to trump? fuck the only outfit I’ve seen stand up to him is the bbc…

          free press chortle

          Free press. In the US, the press is bought,

          also, it’s not free if it’s bought.

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            That is what I meant. The US and China stand on opposite ends on the spectrum of free press. In China, the press isn’t free and in the US, there are no protections keeping the press from being taken over by moneyed interests.

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      talk to actual chinese people instead of taking screenshots of tweets so seriously, and you will get a better idea.

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      Why do they even like Mao so much?

      Same reason Americans love George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Adam Smith.

      He’s a Founding Father of the modern nation, a spiritual progenitor of their economic philosophy, and a guy with tons of media to play up as nostalgia bait for the Chinese equivalent MAGA nationalists.

      You’ll see Chinese nationalists leap to his defense the same way you see American nationalists get Big Mad when you talk about Jefferson raping his father-in-law’s illegitimate slave daughter. Or reminding them why the White House is that color and under which President it happened.

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        Adam Smith was an economist, he lived earlier than Marx, another highly regarded economist, did. Adam Smith wasn’t a founding father of the 🇺🇲.

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          Adam Smith’s “Wealth of Nations” was a direct rebuttal to the British merchantilist policies of the 1770s. It was released the year the Revolutionary War began and heavily influenced both the independent movements propaganda and the subsequent fiscal policies of the new governments.

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        Same reason Americans love George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Adam Smith.

        The average Americans have never heard of Adam Smith.

        And the ones that have studied him are aware that he was a critic of capitalism, not a proponent of it.

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        I’ve never understood the stereotype that Americans idolize a bunch of old white guys from the 1700s.

        Most people I know don’t give a single shit about them, and the ones that do are very vocal about their dislike of them.

        It’s pretty widely accepted that they were all garbage human beings by today’s standards.

        If you mean Republicans idolizing them but only in specific circumstances that support bigoted worldviews, then sure.

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          Yeah, doesn’t look like you guys are beating the stereotype of supporting garbage people

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            What, because we haven’t torn down a massive stone monument from 1941? The vast majority of us weren’t even born when it was completed. Are you going to condemn Chinese people for not blowing up the Terracotta Army?

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              Remind me, do Germans have a national memorial park for Hitler?

              Is it too much to ask them to not do that, if so?

              You guys keep praising/worshipping rapists and pedophiles and maintain grand monuments dedicated to them.

              That’s the problem I’m referring to.

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                  I would say idolizing pedophiles and rapists leads to moral ruin as well for the country, looking at current state of things in US.

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          I’ve never understood the stereotype that Americans idolize a bunch of old white guys from the 1700s.

          Have you ever talked to a Texan, or anyone over 50?

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        There’s kinda a large gap between Jefferson being a sexual predator and Mao allowing 25+ million people to starve in the great leap forward. Definitely feels like one requires ignoring a lot more in order to defend.

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      Life expectancy doubled under Mao. Foot binding was ended. He was instrumental in the victory of China against Japanese imperialism. China rapidly industrialized under Mao. Without Mao, there certainly would have been someone else playing his historic role, but the important factor is that it was indeed Mao that led China to liberation and helped set in stone the modern prosperous China.