• John Richard@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Why do Democrats like Pete Buttigieg keep calling Israel our ally? Do mainstream Democrats really want to be associated with segregation, racism, apartheid and genocide? Why do they continue to defend Nazi Israel’s actions?

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      Liberal just means “it’s okay to be gay, atheist and smoke weed”, it’s never meant “righteous”, “humane” or “anti-imperialist”.

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    A consistent majority of Israeli polls show prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s current coalition bloc with the ultra-Orthodox and the far right will fall well below the threshold of 61 seats needed to form a government.

    The opposition has a clear path to power through an alliance with parties representing Palestinian citizens of Israel, known as Arab parties inside the country.

    Hopefully Netanyahu loses. I wonder how the hatemongers will react to a coalition that includes Arab parties governing Israel? Likely y’all will just start hating Arab Israelis too, hatred is just too addicting for anyone to kick the habit.

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      You are framing opposition to an apartheid regime responsible for genocide as rooted in irrational hatred and hate mongering. That’s weird.

      If somehow a coalition involving Arab parties end up in power, one should expect some concrete steps towards dismantling apartheid and holding genocide perpetrators accountable. That would be a fantastic set of steps. That’s also extremely unlikely. If somehow some Arab Israeli politicians get coopted into a political arrangement that perpetuates the genocidal apartheid regime, then of course they would deserve all the scorn that would be coming their way. None of this is irrational hatemongering. It’s politics around measurable outcomes.

      That said, I find it highly unlikely that Arab Israeli parties will end up in any kind of stable government. It would be red meat for the far right and there seems to exist no political will in the Israeli electorate to seek any reasonable political resolution.

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        All I ever see is propaganda design to foment hatred of Israel which could lead to more violence. Do you think continuing a violent struggle against Israel is making the lives of Palestinians better?

        A non-violent resistance movement would work. Violence obviously doesn’t favour Palestinians.

        A lot of words about destroying Israel, but they have have a lot of firepower that disagrees with your words. But on this site people continue to promote violence towards Israel, all too happy to throw away Palestinian lives purely for the sake of their addiction to hate. You are addicted to seeing images of dead Palestinians so you can get a rush from your daily two minutes of hate.

        It’s obvious to anyone that Israel will not be destroyed by violent acts. That only results in Palestinians dying. I want an end to this war and a Palestinian state living in peaceful co-existence with Israel. Do you want that, or do you want more Palestinians to die while pretending that if you just one more another generation of Palestinian as cannon fodder it will work? Truth and reconciliation is the actual pro-Palestinian stance, not pushing hatred of Israel that will just get more people killed and accomplish nothing.

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          7 hours ago

          A lot of words about destroying Israel, but they have have a lot of firepower that disagrees with your words.

          You seem to be talking to someone else.

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      afaik the leading opposition is a centrist Yashar! party led by Gadi Eisenkot who does not acknowledge Gaza being a genocide and mostly same on Gaza though does acknowledge that Israeli settler terrorists need to be stopped. So it seems like a mild improvement at best?

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        After October 7 it will be at least a decade before Israel can come out of bunker mentality. You might be ignoring how horrific the actions of Hamas were on that day. I admit I couldn’t get though all of the horrific things they did that day, it was insane. But Israelis are well aware of what happened. Having millions of people typing on the internet sympathizing with Hamas probably doesn’t help in getting them out of the bunker mentality. We’re still a long way from the truth and reconciliation that’s needed, but any step in that direction (even a baby step) is something that should be welcomed.

        I don’t want to see another Gaza war in a decade or two. We’ve already seen how that works out, it doesn’t go well for anyone, especially for Palestinians. But on the internet it’s just a constant thirst for more violence, as long as it’s someone other than the person posting the comments that’s going to die because of it.