• Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 minutes ago

    Well according to the numbers its clear that instead of dying overseas they are coming to the US to get run over /s

    It’s insane how terrible our oversized suvs and trucks have gotten. There is a 12" blind spot in front of many of them now where you can’t see someone sitting down or a small child.

    Absolutely insanity.

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    7 hours ago

    Between the rise of SUVs, and the increase in distracted driving, I’m not surprised in the slightest.

    We really need to treat driving offenses with way more scrutiny.

    I found out recently that operating a boat while intoxicated is a mandatory jail sentence. Meanwhile there are people out driving drunk right now who are 3+ DUIs.

    I think it should be 1 and done. After that, you should have to choose between being legally allowed to purchase alcohol, or being legally allowed to drive, and if you blow over 0.00 on a breathalyzer after that, it’s an automatic 10 year sentence.

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    7 hours ago

    that’s a problem that will fix itself when there are no more pedestrians left

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    7 hours ago

    As both a pedestrian and on the road, I’ve almost gotten killed on my bike so many times I’m surprised I’m not dead yet

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      5 hours ago

      This is a very good question. Naively one would think that the pandemic would cut the number of miles driven and therefore fatalities.

      However, I also recall that after lockdowns there was a clear drop in driving skills due to a lack of practice which may have offset The lower vehicle miles.

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    8 hours ago

    I think its about time we stop talking about the US as a developed nation. It really isn’t for a majority of americans, and it does appear to be steadily devolving. It’s maybe not yet a fully fledged 'poor country" but it is way more of a shithole than I would suppose 80% of countries in the developing world. And the fact that do many Americans think they’re the greatest country since sliced bread came around is something I find bemusing

    • Kind_to_Everyone@slrpnk.netOP
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      5 hours ago

      Simply because this statistic is not getting better does not mean that the United States is not a developed country. It means it is something to be addressed.

      Many other statistics have the US improving rapidly e.g. crime, murder, life expectancy, and drug deaths. United States is also home to several vision zero cities which are actively improving this statistic.

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      13 hours ago

      They should not be legally classified as a car. That should require a special license to drive. That thing is like a freaking wheel loader.

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        10 hours ago

        Here comes the fun part. They are legally not classified as a car, at least not in the US. That’s the whole point and the reason, why they are allowed to be much deadlier for everyone else, unsafer also for those inside and more polluting.

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            7 hours ago

            Oh no, normal license is fine. It just means it doesn’t need to meet the same safety or emissions regulations, and also has a lower tax rate. Because it can be used for work you see

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              11 minutes ago

              Yes work… Buying a single 2x4 at home depot and putting a blanket down so it doesn’t scratch your bed

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        9 hours ago

        Agree with you. These should be considered as heavy vehicles (sorry if I’m wrong. English is not my native language). The number of these accidents that happen in the US is insane.

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    13 hours ago

    Not only have the vehicles gotten bigger, but the conservatives have purposely pushed vehicular homicide as something that is acceptable for groups like protesters. Just mention a “liberal” blocking the road to any conservative to have them quickly quip that they would run them over.

    Normalizing vehicular homicide is totally a reflection of our safe and sane car culture in the US.

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    15 hours ago

    How the F did US jumped up in 2020? Did the cars start to run into buildings to make up for the diferance in pedestrian trafic?

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      6 hours ago

      Where I live in the suburbs ebikes have also gotten a lot more popular over the past few years

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    15 hours ago

    As someone without a car in the US, I am obviously pro-urban pedestrian infrastructure. We need more and better busses, and far more walking / biking options that keep us away from cars entirely. If you can’t walk from any one place to any other in a city, that’s two or more cities in a trench coat, you know?

    I do wonder what a graph of average driven hours would do to this chart. Per 100,000 people of course shows more are dying per person. But if US citizens drive twice the total hours(completely made up number) as those in other countries, then we would actually have less pedestrian deaths per driven hour no?

    • Jiral@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      per hours driven our per km driven is a car centric misleading number for many purposes. That is because car centric planning increases the distances one needs to drive, without creating additional value. Going to the supermarket doesn’t get any better just because the supermarket is double as far away. So the per 100,000 people number is a better representation.

      Of course, people having to drive longer and further also means higher risk of deaths and accidents but that is just a compounding issue caused by car centric design itself. It is part of the problem, not some externalised factor that should be compensated for.

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      14 hours ago

      While I do agree that we probably have less “per hour driven” I think this metric is important because it still reflects the danger to the average person. If I get hit by a car it’s not going to make me feel any better to know “that person was driving for a really long time before they hit you”.

      Factually it’s an interesting metric. But it doesn’t make pedestrians feel any safer

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      14 hours ago

      On the other hand, the US has far fewer people walking around than those other countries, and this is per capita, not per 100k pedestrians

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    Terrible street design which prioritizes speed of cars over the safety of the community. The rich and selfish get to kill everyone else so they don’t have to wait a bit longer crossing town.

    Added bonus: the cars also pollute the fuck out of your home in the process.

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    16 hours ago

    It’s interesting to me that Italians have such a terrible reputation for being dangerous on the roads, and even at the start of the graph period they had lower pedestrian fatalities than the USA.

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    18 hours ago

    Just for a better understanding, it would ve interested to see how the share of pedestrians developed in that time. Did decrease, remain similar or even increase?

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      16 hours ago

      Isn’t this largely to do with American car safety standards focusing only on the occupants of the car, rather than both the occupants and other people? Isn’t the Cybertruck rated as one of the safest vehicles by US standards but is considered to dangerous to be driven on most European roads for this reason?

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        14 hours ago

        There is no evaluation of the Cybertruck in the EU, but your general description is not entirely wrong. Tesla never even tried to make that ztash can street legal in the EU, knowing that their front facing stainless steel blades have no chance because they are insane from a pedestrian safety perspective and their are rules that forbid that.

        Safety authorities and regulators in the US obviously don’t care much about the life of pedestrians. If they did, the Cyvertruck would not be street legal in its current form.