OpenAI Just Claimed a Huge Math Discovery. Some Academics Are Crying Foul
www.wired.com
A landmark announcement by the frontier AI lab has been overshadowed by accusations of impropriety.

cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/9497419

The Millennium Problems are a set of the most important open problems in mathematics. so far only 2 have been solved: the Poincare Conjecture by Grigori Perelman in 2010 and today OpenAI released this https://openai.com/index/navier-stokes-solution/

The only problem is, that their AI didn’t even come up with the solution itself. Mathematicians working on the same problem recently made big strides in solving the Navier Stokes equations, and their chat logs were scraped and used in training data before they could release the proof themselves.

Here is the unpaywalled statements of the Mathematician: https://mastodon.social/@tristanbuckmaster/117233413705701198

Western AI companies have been tackling a bunch of open problems and techbro chuds cannot shut up about it, this is just Marketing and the fact they have to steal real people’s work to do so just proves it. They really want that IPO moneyyy capitalist-laugh

    • thanksforreading@lemmy.ml
      111·
      20 hours ago

      Why is the fact that an AI company is surveilling their users and stealing their work in a privacy comm?

      • hirihit640@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        52·
        20 hours ago

        surveilling users? chats are fed into the training data, I believe this is stated pretty clearly on every chat, something like "your chats are used to improve the model’

        • trilobite@lemmy.ml
          1·
          4 hours ago

          I think this is the real problem here. Chats are being fed to AI. This is horendous. Do we know which chat system was raked by OpenAI.

        • thanksforreading@lemmy.ml
          3·
          20 hours ago

          Only in certain plans and you can opt out. I assume they were smart enough to opt out but on review I couldn’t actually find evidence of that so you may be right…

          • leanleft@lemmy.mlEnglish
            3·
            16 hours ago

            this is the whole selling-point of locallama and why local models are so rigorously sought after (despite seeming excessive(seemingly needless) spending on rigs )

    • leanleft@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      16 hours ago

      it would be a better fit for intellectualproperty community . or maybe security. i guess it sorta could be privacy. just not the way most people tend to focus on. intellectualproperty is the bigger issue. but it occured due to lack of privacy .

    • BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world
      1·
      18 hours ago

      Somewhere down the article:

      While unlikely, we cannot rule out that de-identified data derived from their usage of our products helped improve our models⁠.

      • hirihit640@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        9 hours ago

        I’m aware that the data is used to train models. Most people know this, it’s stated clearly. That’s not the story here. The story is IP theft, not privacy.

        • BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 hours ago

          That’s the whole debate… If researchers used ChatGPT then they agreed to its terms and conditions, which are shitty and forfeiting privacy, IP and all that comes with it. All the major AI companies are not in the business for the sake or betterment of humanity, but to exacerbate the capitalist model in which you own nothing (funny how that’s how communism is sometimes described). I mean the whole drama with Altman and OpenAI, that basically killed the initial nonprofit, humanist goals of Open AI was very revealing. I read a quote the other day that said AI is a means for wealth to access skills and knowledge, while preventing those with skills and knowledge to access wealth… Couldn’t say it any better.

          • trilobite@lemmy.ml
            1·
            4 hours ago

            This is why use of AI needs to be a conscious use. We need to understand that everytime we use it, we are teaching it to improve itself, and if we are feeding it sensitive data, then we are being really stupid.