President Donald Trump left countless onlookers aghast Sunday after publishing three dozen bizarre online posts in the span of two hours, one of which suggested the United States owned the moon.“Something is very wrong with the president,” wrote Tom Nichols, staff writer for The Atlantic, in a socia...
I’m not saying that you are, and sorry if I somehow implied it.
That said, Hitler committed suicide soon after turning 56, and Trump is 24 years older than that; or conversely, Trump turned 56 in 2002, just before Bush decided to invade Iraq.
Even then, I don’t think Hitler was more competent.
Hitler opened up 2 fronts. That was stupid.
Hitler declared war on the US, which gave FDR the reason/excuse to pommel Nazi Germany.
Currently Trump is responsible for roughly 1 million deaths this year alone by just cutting USAID. Next to that they have been murdering fishermen in the Caribbean, bombed Iran and 6 other countries and increased poverty in the US and made health care in the US out of reach for more of its inhabitants, as well as medication. Next to that regulations for food safely and pollution have been loosened, which will have a negative impact on health. This will result in many national deaths over the coming years. Then there is the thing with vaccines, reduced funding for the CDC and other vital departments responsible for preventing disease outbreak.
The estimates for the amount of deaths from cutting USAID for over 10 years are between 10 and 15 million, with more casualties in the years after, so Trump is on a path of surpassing Hitler when it comes to death count based on this alone. Oh and don’t forget how he supplies and supports Israel in the genocide of Palestine, and the other illegal wars Israel is currently involved in.
Oh and don’t forget the concentration camps from ICE, in El Salvador and African countries where a mysterious amount of people are secretly dying.
and Stalin and Mao combined murdered over 100 million or some similar figure, so if you like either, you’re worse than a Nazi.
(/s—kinda)
Currently Trump is responsible for roughly 1 million deaths this year alone by just cutting USAID.
That’s not the same as mass murder.
Next to that they have been murdering fishermen in the Caribbean,
Did he murder 6 million of them?
bombed Iran and 6 other countries
Did he kill over 20% of the Iranian population as Hitler did to Poland?
and increased poverty in the US and made health care in the US out of reach for more of its inhabitants, as well as medication.
Communism increased the poverty of the Soviet Union and China each for at least a decade.
Next to that regulations for food safely and pollution have been loosened, which will have a negative impact on health. This will result in many national deaths over the coming years. Then there is the thing with vaccines, reduced funding for the CDC and other vital departments responsible for preventing disease outbreak.
I’m sure those in Auschwitz would have loved to have American junk food.
The estimates for the amount of deaths from cutting USAID for over 10 years are between 10 and 15 million, with more casualties in the years after,
But is the US stopping those countries from feeding themselves and the like?
IIUC, some of these countries suffer because of their own governments.
so Trump is on a path of surpassing Hitler when it comes to death count based on this alone.
a long path, IMO.
Oh and don’t forget how he supplies and supports Israel in the genocide of Palestine, and the other illegal wars Israel is currently involved in.
Did Israel murder 6 million Palestinians, or even a 10th of that?
Arguably Hitler, in the minds of many Jews, made Zionism necessary: it’s not like the Muslim world and Communists offered a better more practical alternative; ergo Hitler is kind of to blame for the suffering of Palestinians.
Oh and don’t forget the concentration camps from ICE, in El Salvador and African countries where a mysterious amount of people are secretly dying.
IIUC, those Salvadoran detention camps are are a creation of wp:Nayib Bukele who IIUC is a Salvadoran of Palestinian descent, once self-described as a “radical leftist” and may be either a Christian or Muslim.
IIUC, a few years ago El Salvador had the highest murder rate of any country, and after he took over, he essentially imprisoned about 2% of El Salvador’s male population, and now that rate has fallen perhaps to US levels or lower.
As for the death toll, again it’s a small fraction, perhaps a tiny fraction, of the Holocaust.
(Angela of Parkrose Permaculture says similar, and I also disagree with her on that.)
and Stalin and Mao combined murdered over 100 million or some similar figure, so if you like either, you’re worse than a Nazi.
I do not. Wtf
That’s not the same as mass murder.
The how would you call letting millions die of hunger and sickness willingly? According you your logic Hitler was also not responsible for mass murder, he let others do the work for him. This is fucking bullshit.
Did he murder 6 million of them?
Is that a baseline to let it count?
Did he kill over 20% of the Iranian population as Hitler did to Poland?
So that is worse. That makes Trump good? He did help kill ~80% of all Palestinians in Gaza, of which ~30% are children, plus ~21% of children in westbank and an unknown percentage of civilians there. Does that count?
Communism increased the poverty of the Soviet Union and China each for at least a decade.
What is your point here? Communism also increased poverty, so? Trump is good? Trump does not increase poverty? Me: “This is an apple.” You: “But that is also an apple.” yes it is mate. Both are apples. What is your point? Both Trump and the communist regimes China and Soviet union, but also North Korea, are bad.
I’m sure those in Auschwitz would have loved to have American junk food.
Maybe ask those in ICE concentration camps if they would like some junk food instead of forced hunger. Again, what is your point? You make no sense. Also ask ICE for real reports of deaths in there while you’re at it.
Dude, defending Trump works on Twitter, you’re on the wrong platform here mate. You make no sense with your arguments. The more I read the worse it gets. I’m not going to continue arguing with this nonsense.
Just because the ratios of deaths are not exactly the same among amount of deaths doesn’t make Trump less evil. He treats other humans as non-human, he’s responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths, which is going into millions of deaths over the years. He opened concentration camps, he endorses crimes against humanity and war crimes including famine, genocide and torture, he supports fascists, he kidnapped a nation’s leader, started a war, bombed 7 countries in his second term alone, broke ties with his allies, fucked the economy, raised world tension. Oh and he’s corrupt AF and a serial child sexual abuser. The guy is evil AF. Hitler was evil AF. But yeah, he’s not an exact copy. Hitler his ugly paintings look better than Trump his drawings, and Hitler wasn’t known to sexually abuse kids. So maybe Trump is worse than Hitler, maybe it’s comparing apples with pears.
and Stalin and Mao combined murdered over 100 million or some similar figure, so if you like either, you’re worse than a Nazi.
I do not. Wtf
good to know. 😁 🙂
That’s not the same as mass murder.
The how would you call letting millions die of hunger and sickness willingly? According you your logic Hitler was also not responsible for mass murder, he let others do the work for him. This is fucking bullshit.
One might be able to say the same about the leader of any developed country with a GDP of over $1 trillion, or maybe one of our alleged “trillionaires” such as Musk.
Did he murder 6 million of them?
Is that a baseline to let it count?
If you’re going to compare Trump, or anyone else, with Hitler, I’d say so.
He did help kill ~80% of all Palestinians in Gaza,
I don’t think that Trump or the Israeli leaders combined killed that number.
Me: “This is an apple.” You: “But that is also an apple.” yes it is mate. Both are apples. What is your point?
IIUC, we’re arguing quantity more than quality.
This is an apple, and this is 10 apples: which would you rather have?
Maybe ask those in ICE concentration camps if they would like some junk food instead of forced hunger.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think it’s Nayib Bukele intention is to exterminate a population with a disproportionately large number, if not a majority of, gangsters and other criminals. I’m sure he’s content to keep them there for decades, if necessary; though I get the feeling that most will be released in several years or a few decades. (Also, Jews and other concentration camp victims didn’t cause Germany to have a murder rate of about 100:100 000 a year).
Dude, defending Trump works on Twitter, you’re on the wrong platform here mate. You make no sense with your arguments. The more I read the worse it gets. I’m not going to continue arguing with this nonsense.
I’m no more defending Trump than you’re defending Hitler.
Trump is a bad man, but Hitler was worse; and that, to some here, it seems, is a controversial statement.
Just because the ratios of deaths are not exactly the same among amount of deaths doesn’t make Trump less evil.
Now what if I re-wrote that:
Just because the ratios of deaths are not exactly the same among amount of deaths doesn’t make Hitler more evil.
He opened concentration camps,
Where? Do they have gas chambers?
and before you cite the US prison-industrial-complex, that existed long before Trump. Indeed, before that, they had slavery. In fact a few Presidents owned slaves. Jefferson, cited by many in a positive way, owned slaves and probably fucked, i.e. in his case raped, a few of them.
he endorses crimes against humanity and war crimes including famine, genocide and torture,
a lot of people endorsed it, including Dubya Bush, who seems to be becoming an ally-of-sorts with a few anti-Trumpers.
he kidnapped a nation’s leader,
a bad leader at that, but Papa Bush got Noriega.
Hitler wasn’t known to sexually abuse kids.
FWIW,
Sally Hemings: the woman Jefferson kept as a slave, as well, IIUC, a few hundred other people.
So maybe Trump is worse than Hitler, maybe it’s comparing apples with pears.
I’d say an apple and a pear to 10 apples and 10 pears.
Hitler essentially had 10s of millions murdered.
Look, I’m not defending Hitler here or anywhere, I’m just saying that at least he was a competent leader
I’m not saying that you are, and sorry if I somehow implied it.
That said, Hitler committed suicide soon after turning 56, and Trump is 24 years older than that; or conversely, Trump turned 56 in 2002, just before Bush decided to invade Iraq.
Even then, I don’t think Hitler was more competent.
Hitler opened up 2 fronts. That was stupid.
Hitler declared war on the US, which gave FDR the reason/excuse to pommel Nazi Germany.
Mussolini, another idiot, did the same.
Meanwhile.
IIUC, wp:Francisco Franco declared war on no country and lived to be 82.
*sorry about the misquote, folks.
Currently Trump is responsible for roughly 1 million deaths this year alone by just cutting USAID. Next to that they have been murdering fishermen in the Caribbean, bombed Iran and 6 other countries and increased poverty in the US and made health care in the US out of reach for more of its inhabitants, as well as medication. Next to that regulations for food safely and pollution have been loosened, which will have a negative impact on health. This will result in many national deaths over the coming years. Then there is the thing with vaccines, reduced funding for the CDC and other vital departments responsible for preventing disease outbreak.
The estimates for the amount of deaths from cutting USAID for over 10 years are between 10 and 15 million, with more casualties in the years after, so Trump is on a path of surpassing Hitler when it comes to death count based on this alone. Oh and don’t forget how he supplies and supports Israel in the genocide of Palestine, and the other illegal wars Israel is currently involved in.
Oh and don’t forget the concentration camps from ICE, in El Salvador and African countries where a mysterious amount of people are secretly dying.
and Stalin and Mao combined murdered over 100 million or some similar figure, so if you like either, you’re worse than a Nazi.
(/s—kinda)
That’s not the same as mass murder.
Did he murder 6 million of them?
Did he kill over 20% of the Iranian population as Hitler did to Poland?
Communism increased the poverty of the Soviet Union and China each for at least a decade.
I’m sure those in Auschwitz would have loved to have American junk food.
But is the US stopping those countries from feeding themselves and the like?
IIUC, some of these countries suffer because of their own governments.
a long path, IMO.
Did Israel murder 6 million Palestinians, or even a 10th of that?
Arguably Hitler, in the minds of many Jews, made Zionism necessary: it’s not like the Muslim world and Communists offered a better more practical alternative; ergo Hitler is kind of to blame for the suffering of Palestinians.
IIUC, those Salvadoran detention camps are are a creation of wp:Nayib Bukele who IIUC is a Salvadoran of Palestinian descent, once self-described as a “radical leftist” and may be either a Christian or Muslim.
IIUC, a few years ago El Salvador had the highest murder rate of any country, and after he took over, he essentially imprisoned about 2% of El Salvador’s male population, and now that rate has fallen perhaps to US levels or lower.
As for the death toll, again it’s a small fraction, perhaps a tiny fraction, of the Holocaust.
(Angela of Parkrose Permaculture says similar, and I also disagree with her on that.)
I do not. Wtf
The how would you call letting millions die of hunger and sickness willingly? According you your logic Hitler was also not responsible for mass murder, he let others do the work for him. This is fucking bullshit.
Is that a baseline to let it count?
So that is worse. That makes Trump good? He did help kill ~80% of all Palestinians in Gaza, of which ~30% are children, plus ~21% of children in westbank and an unknown percentage of civilians there. Does that count?
What is your point here? Communism also increased poverty, so? Trump is good? Trump does not increase poverty? Me: “This is an apple.” You: “But that is also an apple.” yes it is mate. Both are apples. What is your point? Both Trump and the communist regimes China and Soviet union, but also North Korea, are bad.
Maybe ask those in ICE concentration camps if they would like some junk food instead of forced hunger. Again, what is your point? You make no sense. Also ask ICE for real reports of deaths in there while you’re at it.
Dude, defending Trump works on Twitter, you’re on the wrong platform here mate. You make no sense with your arguments. The more I read the worse it gets. I’m not going to continue arguing with this nonsense.
Just because the ratios of deaths are not exactly the same among amount of deaths doesn’t make Trump less evil. He treats other humans as non-human, he’s responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths, which is going into millions of deaths over the years. He opened concentration camps, he endorses crimes against humanity and war crimes including famine, genocide and torture, he supports fascists, he kidnapped a nation’s leader, started a war, bombed 7 countries in his second term alone, broke ties with his allies, fucked the economy, raised world tension. Oh and he’s corrupt AF and a serial child sexual abuser. The guy is evil AF. Hitler was evil AF. But yeah, he’s not an exact copy. Hitler his ugly paintings look better than Trump his drawings, and Hitler wasn’t known to sexually abuse kids. So maybe Trump is worse than Hitler, maybe it’s comparing apples with pears.
good to know. 😁 🙂
One might be able to say the same about the leader of any developed country with a GDP of over $1 trillion, or maybe one of our alleged “trillionaires” such as Musk.
If you’re going to compare Trump, or anyone else, with Hitler, I’d say so.
How many Gazans are there?
WP says about 2 million.
80% of that is 1.6 million.
I don’t think that Trump or the Israeli leaders combined killed that number.
IIUC, we’re arguing quantity more than quality.
This is an apple, and this is 10 apples: which would you rather have?
Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think it’s Nayib Bukele intention is to exterminate a population with a disproportionately large number, if not a majority of, gangsters and other criminals. I’m sure he’s content to keep them there for decades, if necessary; though I get the feeling that most will be released in several years or a few decades. (Also, Jews and other concentration camp victims didn’t cause Germany to have a murder rate of about 100:100 000 a year).
I’m no more defending Trump than you’re defending Hitler.
Trump is a bad man, but Hitler was worse; and that, to some here, it seems, is a controversial statement.
Now what if I re-wrote that:
Just because the ratios of deaths are not exactly the same among amount of deaths doesn’t make Hitler more evil.
Where? Do they have gas chambers?
and before you cite the US prison-industrial-complex, that existed long before Trump. Indeed, before that, they had slavery. In fact a few Presidents owned slaves. Jefferson, cited by many in a positive way, owned slaves and probably fucked, i.e. in his case raped, a few of them.
a lot of people endorsed it, including Dubya Bush, who seems to be becoming an ally-of-sorts with a few anti-Trumpers.
a bad leader at that, but Papa Bush got Noriega.
FWIW,
Sally Hemings: the woman Jefferson kept as a slave, as well, IIUC, a few hundred other people.
I’d say an apple and a pear to 10 apples and 10 pears.
We still have two years for this one to live up to his full potential.
Hitler killed himself several days after his 56th birthday.