Still genital mutiliation and child sex abuse
Agree. I’m from Europe and I find it very weird how common it is in the US
It’s SO common in the US that while growing up I felt ashamed and incredibly self concious of being uncircumsized in high school showers. Life’s so strange.
It’s not really a thing outside the USA? At least not in Canada anymore. I’m one of a bunch of kids and about halfway through my siblings they stopped recommending it.
Confused the hell out of 8 year old me tasked with giving my 3 year old brother a shower.
Thankfully the millennial generation has started doing away with circumcising our children. Last time I checked, which was admittedly 10 years ago, the circumcision rates were closer to 50/50 in the US.
Update: It’s dropped below 50%!
“We reviewed over 1.5 million U.S. hospitalizations of male neonates, ages 0 to 28 days, during the period 2012 to 2022, and found that the overall prevalence of hospitalizations where a neonatal male circumcision was performed decreased significantly, from 54.1% to 49.3%,” says study co-senior author Aaron Tobian, M.D., Ph.D., professor of pathology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. “Decreases were observed across most patient and hospital subgroups, including whites — a group with traditionally high circumcision rates — where circumcisions dropped 5.3% over the decade studied.”
It’s good to know it’s moving toward not maiming kids. I’m afraid to ask about vaccination rates because my sister’s kids are of questionable status on that front, and my sister won’t talk about such things. Very alternative hippy type.
I wish the stats were even better than they are now honestly. I think it’s a horrendous practice.
My husband started out with the “he should look like me…” and then quickly came around after a bit of reading. The Adam Ruins Everything on circumcision is great!
Yep, I got teased for it
I feel your pain brother.
I’m from the US and didn’t circumcise my son. It’s really simple. Who doesn’t want more penis? I’d take more penis. Penis is all good. Why subtract penis?
When my older brother had a son he DID circumcise him. When I asked why, he gave me this head shake as if to say “huh? what?” and all he said was “that’s just how they do it at the hospital we went to.”
I mean labor and childbirth are a whirlwind so I don’t blame anyone for losing a detail or two. Unless that detail subtracts a part of my penis. Then we gone fight.
you beat me to that exact phrase 👍
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lmao… right, carry on!
also, European or not… The US sucks 👍
You’re against circumcision because you believe it causes autism.
I’m against circumcision because I believe genitally mutilating non-consenting infants is an atrocity.
We are not the same.
Agree and all, but to add - I road bike and run ultra marathons. When doing super long distances, you’re gonna end up chafing a bit (probably). I would much rather my foreskin get the rub as opposed to THE SENSITIVE TIP OF MY DICK.
You know what really hurts? Water hitting raw skin that’s been rubbed in shorts or a bike bib for 4+ hours.
I’m sure it will have negative long term impacts to my ability to be stimulated.
Yeah, something a lot of people don’t realize is that circumcized dicks lose a lot of sensitivity due to the excessive friction they go endure throughout each day just by moving around normally.
I read somewhere that intact dicks are basically a mucus membrane underneath the foreskin. That’s wild, my dick skin is more like the skin on the back of my hand. No wonder people are so obsessed with sex, it must feel so damn good for uncircumcised people. Something I’ll never experience. Damn religion.
But it does mutilate the child’s genitals.
No but it is cruel as fuck and rooted in religious bigotry
Who… how could… what?
… ah.
“Parents have been concerned about this potential circumcision-autism connection, but hopefully these findings may help allay their fears,” says senior author Monica McGrath, research professor in the Bloomberg School’s Department of Epidemiology…
Ah ok I understand now.
“Parents”.
Bigotry against autists is so extreme that idiot religious extremists will actually consider one of their more barbaric, senseless, cherished traditions as negotiable, relative to the utter ‘horror’ of their children potentially being autistic.
Right?‽ the logic of this is just so messed up on both ends
One way or another, they just can’t help but to cut you down and fit you into one of their simple little boxes they understand.
OK but it is still a barbaric practice and I don’t see why we allow it. Just because it is culturally accepted does not make it OK.
No but it is cruel and a gross violation of bodily autonomy that should have huge amounts of jail time attached.
Can we spread a lie that it does ?
Idk what else will stop people from mutilating their child’s genitals.
Culture needs to be developed where parents are explicitly asked are they mutalating their kids and feel the social pressure.
In the UK, the way they made it go out of fashion is make it so the national health insurance didn’t cover it anymore.
I think that could work here.
Wait one thing american insurance has no problem covering is penis mutilation? Looking at this more - it is true though not covered by medicaid or if you’re an adult. How fucking weird. I genuinely don’t understand this but my bad here for trying to rationally explain this.
How fucking weird. I genuinely don’t understand this
Jeezus said so, that’s why.
If you keep digging and playing an adult game of “why?” you eventually come to that “reasoning.” It’s ultimately why we can’t have nice things because religion falls to critical thinking skills, falls to history, falls to literature, and falls to the scientific method.
It’s like any other group of people: it’s held up by people who’ve “paid their dues” and need younger people to buy into the system and feed it so the older folks can coast through the end of their life. The system is brutal to people who don’t conform. They usually end up expelled from the group and left without resources to build back up again. It’s why there are whole other support groups, as an example, to get people out of the LDS sphere of influence.
And by the way, to you good people helping folks escape from the LDS: you would do well to read all the stories about whole chinese police departments working in North America, and what’s going on with Flock, and LLMs gathering up data, and it all being available for purchase. I hope your OPSEC is up to having that light shined on you.
They should make it illegal
It “going out of fashion” didn’t stop my Jewish parents in the UK mutilating me
That’s a good point. It won’t stop Jewish parents. I feel like it would be hard to make it illegal without making a religious exception. But that’s what needs to happen.
I don’t see it as any different than female genital mutilation, which is banned and illegal in most countries. Most people seem to be in agreement that it’s not acceptable. Regardless of religion or cultural views of the individuals doing it. Why is this not applied to boys?
I mean, I personally think allowing harm based on religion is just opening the door for any crime.
“12 year old girls have to first have sex with an older male in their family because it’s part of our religious beliefs”
You can literally make up any horrors and say your religion requires it.
*mutilating, fyi
“Parents have been concerned about this potential circumcision-autism connection, but hopefully these findings may help allay their fears,” says senior author Monica McGrath
Dear Dr. McGrath,
Which parents?
Sincerely,
Sane people
Obviously. Nowhere to hide the Tylenol.
(why am I like this?)
despair?
hmmmm no. Making a jokes about hiding autism inducing OTCs in your foreskin defs comes from different place than that for me
Ah, personal experience!
Nothing beats the personal touch, true
If you can try it with tylonol. I call it the rattle snake
just don’t toss it in your salad. made that mistake some time ago… it ain’t good!
I usually throw a Claritin in there, or maybe even a Wurther’s Original depending on the destination.
Who else is fine with pretending it does if that results in fewer circumcisions?
I’m on board with that.
Well, they answered for “just after birth”, but what about a week later? Or two? Or a month? Or 2hours and 12 minutes? We don’t know anything that. I would not take that risk.
There surely is a way to cause confusion.
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…did people think it did?
It’s such a weird thing to do a study on in 2026 given how many thousands of years of data we already have. Like if it made any difference at all it definitely would have been spotted by at least Roman times.
fuck AMAB genital mutilation!!! fucking weirdos!!!
I mean, I guess, looking at it with our modern understanding. I look at it like leeches - which were once viewed as a way of helping people get healthier, but then we figured out that was wrong.
With circumcision we knew it wasn’t for ‘hygiene’ for quite a long time lol. It’s about masturbation. They want men to not be cranking it. They still will tho, that’s the lie that everyone knows and everyone just pretends they don’t. But it’s always been about men jacking it. Can’t be petting the snake with God watching.
Uh, I don’t think that’s why most modern parents go for it. The reason I’ve heard is “so he looks like his father does.”
Watch back. See eye to eye. Cocked and loaded
Tell the religious people that circumcision causes trans women. At least that one could make sense to someone who’s afraid of trans people.
Aren’t there literally people who were biologically male but raised as a girl due to botched circumcisions?
There’s a famous one. He transitioned as an adult and later died by suicide.
I think so. There are also some intersex people who were “modified” as a baby to be female, but heaven forbid waiting for the child to at least be cognizant.
Seems unlikely, it would have to be a really botched tip snip to get the balls.
It can result in higher rates of herpes in some communities though.
scientific source?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26407411/ and related articles.
Is it really too much to ask that jewish leaders with herpes not put their mouths on chilren’s penises after cutting them? Wow.
Maybe we’re just making mountains out of mohels though.
GROSS! I never knew they did that afterwards.
It’s forbidden in many States, but it just continued in secret, 'cause tradition.
Not at all what the article says. The herpes connection has nothing to do with the act of circumcision, and was a review of individual case studies, not an overall rate.
I stand corrected, it’s totally not weird for some old dude to suck a baby dick and this hasn’t resulted in transmission of disease. Well done.
The practice has a body count:
I am aware. Crazy shit, can’t believe anyone would defend the practice.
There is none, but here are some that show just the opposite:
Male Circumcision for the Prevention of HSV-2 and HPV Infections and Syphilis (2009)
The Medical Benefits of Male Circumcision (2013)
Circumcision impedes viral disease (2009)
Circumcision Curbs Risk of Genital Herpes and HPV Infection (2009)
I read that there were even neolithic societies already employing circumcision as ritual, long before Western colonization.
I have very very high doubt here
Are you saying the sources are likely fake or false in some way?
False and propaganda from the religious alt right. Also look at how close those dates are. Sounds like a paid-for “science” campaign. If there was a valid medical reason against not circumcising, I’d probably have heard about it by now.
(And yes, in individual cases, a medical circumcision is required, but not for hygiene or STD prevention, and it can never be a general guideline. The damage (loss of nerve sensation, lack of lubrication) is a much bigger problem, including for the female partner.).
What is their play here? Do they have something to gain by men getting circumcised?
religion, power over others, right wing retorica, conservatives, imbeciles, …
