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    It should be clear by now how the party donation relates to this. Mullvad does not condone it, nor condemn it.

    If they don’t condemn donating to Nazis then they’re Nazi’s. Pretty clear. Proton VPN it is.

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        Proton complimented one Trump policy about privacy which is stupid but they’re not donating to literal Nazi’s at least.

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      They made is pretty clear that they think a broad coalition is necessary to support their cause of privacy.

      These purity politics are nothing but self-aggrandizement. It achieves nothing towards improving the conditions of the working class and if anything it’s actively harmful.

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        This isn’t purity politics. This is deciding you don’t like what someone is doing with money so you refuse to give them anymore.

        Also having Nazis in your “privacy coalition” makes about as much sense as a coyote being a guard dog for chickens.

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        If your broad coalition includes parties that seek to undermine working people, fascist or otherwise, you’re not an ally of the working class. Stop drinking the koolaid, you simp.

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    “aren’t we living in a multicultural democracy, why can’t the minorities and the racists just get along and be respectful of each others’ ideas”

    Absolutely pathetic response. I’m less likely to use them now than before I read this

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      Sorry, but where are you quoting from? It seems to be neither from mullvad’s last post, nor from the linked blog of Daniel Berntsson.

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    They try to distance themselves from it as much as they can, but at the end of the day he is using money he obtained from Mullvad (us) in ways some people don’t like.

    The only true way to stop it is for the CEO to leave the company and sell all shares and stakes…

    Or to simply stop giving Mullvad money, which is what I’ve done. There are plenty other privacy focused vpns that don’t have this issue.

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      Are they trying to disrtance themselves, though?

      Mullvad does not condone it, nor condemn it. It most likely was a bad idea; most things where there are a multitude of conflicting opinions necessarily are. But societies need a great diversity of ideas, initiatives and organizations who can be tested and sifted until the best ones remain.

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        But societies need a great diversity of ideas, initiatives and organizations who can be tested and sifted until the best ones remain.

        need? At what point does a society NEED to test racism to see if it should remain?

        When will these societies decide that they tested it long enough?

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      What VPN would you recommend which outs privacy first but also has good enough speed and ping to use as daily driver for HD videos and casual gaming?

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      What’s not to love, they simply want a national version of socialism. I’m sure that’s never come up before.

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        And he called himself an anarchist when he’s a textbook example of social darwinist, Armstrong type even. My anarchist brothers and sisters, when will you step up to not let them take the brand and banners of your hands?

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      Its easy, just let racism blind you and kick immigrants out of the working class.

      To be fair the 30 hour work week is a campaign promise from the real socialist parties in Sweden

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    We have nurtured a culture of radical tolerance. Even when some in our sphere of collaborators have advocated for actors and views that have personally and severely affected the founders and their family members, this has not stood in the way of cooperation.

    The leopards that ate other people’s faces will definitely not eat my face too

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      What are the odds that the others are closeted fascists as well? UK the kind

      we don’t agree with the right wingers but immigration is an issue and only they are addressing it, so I’ll keep to myself and not speak much

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    Given that Mullvad is the gold standard for ACTUAL privacy, can be paid with cash or crypto, has no user accounts and has been actually tested by law enforcement and they got fuck all.

    What is the alternative? Privacy first VPN, not “I wanna watch Japanese Netflix” VPN.

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      There isn’t one.

      If you don’t need to have a legally tested system to protect yourself and can yolo it and also understand how to navigate their sites to pay cash only and not set up a normal account then both Ivpn and proton are fine.

      Don’t use air for privacy. They’re a piracy service. They’re really good at that though.

      Don’t use nym for a while. Even if they were trustworthy their tech is green and relies on the same systems that proof of stake cryptocurrencies do.

      Safing is a little too complicated to recommend.

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    I am once again posting a reply to help users of lemmy understand that there is no alternative to mullvad unless you can accept a lower privacy, anonymity and security standard of service.

    That doesn’t mean if you leave mullvad you will be harmed, only that you will be losing safety margin.

    Your decisions are your own: you may know better than me, you may be willing to suffer for your principles, you may believe your actions in the marketplace will have a tangible effect on the world but if you read this you can hopefully make those decisions yourself with clear eyes and understanding.

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      IVPN is often cited as an alternative to Mullvad. Is there any reason not to consider it now?

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        I have used ivpn in the past, before apps, and have some accounts for its present iteration that are not tested yet.

        The biggest problem I see with ivpn is how complex its offerings are and by extension how difficult it is for even a user who has passing familiarity with VPNs like myself to make good choices.

        While recently it’s been made the default, the user can still opt to create a username and password that are subpoenable pii, if that’s a word. Able to be subpoenaed.

        It is not immediately clear what the security surface is on their various product tiers. I won’t go into all of them but the top features a third party firewall program called portmaster that’s developed by a different vpn company called safing. Perhaps this is useful to you. I found it to be another fractal galaxy of loose ends to tease out.

        The above stuff is largely the same boat proton is in. You can set up a simple vpn account. Will you? They would love to give you a good deal on a big bundle…

        Mullvad avoids this with a single product offering, no additional attack surface (except for their now ubiquitous version of the vpn app) and no way for the user to put them in a situation where they ever even have your information.

        What remains to be seen is real strongly investigated results of a legal action against ivpn. Those legal actions have happened but they’ve largely been what get called “fishing trips” by exhausted public defenders in procedural dramas. There hasn’t been anything on the scale of what’s been pointed at mullvad and with the Byzantine stuff on offer by ivpn in comparison to mullvad it would be a real hoot to dig through that disclosure if and when it comes along.

        It may behove you, as it once behove me (is it really spelled the same in past and future perfect tenses, like a read/read situation?) to disregard guides or recommendations and instead look into the information directly and draw your own conclusions.

        For example: Often times, a guide or recommendation is formatted as a spreadsheet and the best option is the one that accumulates the most check marks across its row. That type of decision making system would give an advantage to services that support the use of the openvpn protocol since it’s one more check than those that don’t. Except for the common modern use case of openvpn is embedded edge devices like routers that may not support safe openvpn configurations.

        So presence of footgun is a plus in many systems used to recommend VPNs and that’s just a simple example.

        Everyone’s different and everyone’s needs are different.

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          I started using ivpn almost 8 years ago, and I believe the default setting back then was to not use accounts with usernames.

          Some of the key reasons I chose it at the time were port forwarding (this service was later discontinued), its open-source F-Droid application, the ability to configure the WireGuard connection on my Linux machine without the application (I never tried it), its commitment to user anonymity (zero logs, payment methods, etc.), external audits, and the fact that it wasn’t based in an EU member state (ivpn is a Gibraltar-based company).

          The last reason is that I live in the EU, which shouldn’t be a problem for those who don’t.

          Since then, I haven’t bothered to check how the VPN industry has evolved. Thanks for the thorough answer.

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            Have you used any of the other stuff they offer like the dns or mail thing?

            I have only used their WireGuard config file -> into /etc/WireGuard simple kind of man setup.

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              Nops, and I think that it’s a bad move to change their business model to be a VPN provider to a catch-all security related provider, also I only have the standard tie which don’t have the DNS, mail redirection or portmaster services.

              Furthermore, my threat model changed with the struggle for the independence of Catalonia, it put the state as my main adversary, and making them waste their time and resources with multiple subpoenas is a plus.

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                Idk if it’s a good business move, some of those kitchen sink providers can offer a user a lot of value. I’m perhaps not the target demographic for that.

                Completely off topic, but what kind of phone duress setup do you use? It’s not often I get to talk to someone who is primarily concerned about the state.

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    What vpn to migrate to? Proton trys to be Google 2.0 and centralize, The ones from the adverts (nord, tunnelbear, surfshark) dont protect your privacy and are therefore useless…

    Anyone with more tech knowledge got a recommendation fro maximum privacy and decent enough speed and ping for hd videos and casual gaming?

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      I’m going with Nym when my Mullvad sub is up. If I can get a refund from Mullvad without KYCing myself, I’ll do so earlier.

      Nym runs your traffic through 5 nodes or 2 nodes (a nixnet) depending on user selected setting. Node operators are paid in crypto based on the number of packets they handle. The CEO is an anarchist and expects to be in prison at some point. Nym is designed to continue running even if all the higher ups are in prison.

      I’m not a customer, just got all this from an interview with the CEO on with TheHatedOne.

      Edit: This is the interview I mentioned https://www.bitchute.com/video/uoyDTW2nxWk

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        Thx for the suggestion, I have seen this, the hated one is my only good source on this topic, but more than one source would be nice.

        The anarchist story was one of those which sounded almost to good to be true in my ears

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      I use AirVpn. Seems good (no logs, etc) and they allow payment via bitcoin.

      I moved to them as they allow port forwarding when many others were dropping the option

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    “Why did I, a libertarian anarchist, support the Örebro Party (ÖP), which is neither, with a donation?”

    shocked face

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    Gee, I wonder what the far-right thinks about letting leftists speak freely?

    The conflation between a chud using mullvad vs using the profits from mullvad to fund a political party… Tf