Ukraine struck Russia’s largest oil refinery, located in the city of Omsk, on Monday, marking what its forces say was its furthest-ever drone attack in the war.
The Omsk facility, which processes about 21 million tons of oil a year, is in Western Siberia and about 1,700 miles from Ukrainian territory — roughly the distance between Los Angeles and Houston.
And the greatest and second largest army of the world, didn’t even notice a few foreign drones traveling 1700 miles across their land! I wonder who’s gonna fall out of a window for this.
Put in Put out
Im a little out of the loop, why are they suddenly able to do this now? What changed in their capabilities?
They’ve been specifically targeting Russian Air defenses for awhile now forcing them to spread what little they do have even more. Since NATO have been pussies about providing them long range precision munitions they’ve had to spend time to develop their own cruise missiles like the Neptune and Flamingo the latter of which has entered regular production and has a range of 3000km.
They basically reinvented the Nazi V1 with their Flamingo, and although only small % get through, it’s devastatingly accurate against refineries.
Meanwhile, Russia uses the old Nazi strategy of launching very expensive rockets at apartments with civilians in cities, doing 0 strategic damage to Ukraine war capabilities, just like the Nazi V1 and later V2 was used and was relatively useless despite its high price.
Oh, and Ukraine can shoot at almost all Russia’s refineries and weapons factories, but Russia can’t do it back because Ukrainian can always import from refineries and factories in France, Germany, etc, beyond the NATO border…
Why are all your call backs to nazis?
Look at the v1. Then look at the flamingo. It’s almost like they pulled an 80 year old drawing out of a drawer for their design! And the Russian tactic of causing panic and terror is exactly what Nazi’s did with bombing London! I do it because it makes sense. This special military operation got so out of hand the world wars are almost the only historic wars worth comparing it too. Just hope he gets hanged by a mob like Mussolini or shoots himself in his bunker soon…
Maybe just try mixing it up a bit, most jet powered cruse missiles end up looking like a V1 (that itself was not a new layout) for one example. You can vary your references by pointing to non nazi examples, not all the time but throw in an alternative at least some time. It is not like the nazi’s even invented much, like the terror strikes to London where tried in ww1 for another example. They where kinda shit after all and its just weird to use them like a measuring stick to everything.
Where I’m from, they are the measuring stick for “authoritarian state goes total war over ideology and fucks up” in a modern/mechanised way.
And that’s a fine use, but to also use them in measuring Ukrainian technical development is still odd.
I just really found the flamingo resembles it. I’m no current rocketry expert, so in my brain seeing pictures of a Flamingo referenced to something historical I do know and which I think is very widely known. There’s nothing more to it than that.
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The article says that they’re jet launched.
TIL Siberia is way bigger than I expected. I knew it was big, but it looks like it’s more than half of Russian landmass. It can’t all be the climate I’m picturing, right? Like it borders Kazakhstan, so I figure at least part of it has to have hot summers
Siberia is actually 3/4ths of Russia’s landmass. The northern parts are taiga, which are giant uninterrupted forests. The shores of the Arctic Ocean are mostly tundra. In the southern parts the taiga gives way to steppes.
In the northern parts the climate has warm but quite short summers and long cold winters. In the southern part, where most of the population lives, they have the same climate as southern Canada/New England just less humid. The Western parts are also covered by warm winds that originate from the Middle East and hence have higher temperatures than their more Eastern areas. For reference in Novosibirsk, which is the largest city the average yearly summer temperatures reach 25 degrees Celsius but temperatures can also spike to as high as 38 degrees.
So yeah Siberia is not all some barren tundra as most people imagine.
Though is that comparison corrected for the projection? Texas is farther south than Siberia and with the usual projection used, you can only compare the sizes of things at the same latitude. It’s the same thing that makes Greenland look as big as Africa when it’s closer to the size of South Africa.
Though is that comparison corrected for the projection?
Yes. Check it out here: https://truesize.net/en/
lol, you got me, that’s what twigged it for me- I figured Siberia would start further east of Ukraine than Texas is of California
“Do you know how many time zones they have?” “Uh, yessir. Uh, four … uh, no sir. I never really studied that up.” “Eleven.” “Eleven. It’s not even funny.” “Eleven.” “Eleven. That’s, that’s ridiculous.” “Eleven.”
Personally, I say California should be controlled by Australia.
… Why?
I replied to the wrong post somehow, this was supposed to be under the post of Trump saying Iceland should be under US control.
It probably makes a bit more sense there (I also don’t think California should be under Australia’s control, it was just snark)
I also don’t think California should be under Australia’s control
Too bad, we have already established a beachhead with the eucalyptus.
They did it back to us too with Radiata Pines
I found your comment to be very appropriate - even for this post. And I agree with you.
Australia is a bad choice cause they’ve been low-key screwing up their country quite badly.
Their economy and social policies are great under Labor, it’s only when the grift fascists are in power that all the money goes to oligarchs.
Well, they both might benefit from eachother’s expertise in fighting wildfires…
Oh, It turns out that what some friends in Russia reported was true. They said they had to queue for about two hours just to buy fuel.
I wonder if Ukraine got the idea from Iran?
I don’t mean that as an accusation, but… well, Iran basically has the world economy’s throat. And I know Ukraine’s drones just got the capability, but Iran had to be a fantastic reminder of how fragile an oil economy is.
Ukraine started their “long range sanctions” program years before Trump attacked Iran. It’s getting more attention now because the years of consistent damage are starting to add up, but it’s certainly not new. People who pay attention have always known the economic vulnerability of the oil market.
That and their drone production ramped up so much that they can “sanction” Russia far more often now
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