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The crazy thing is, there’s no actual reason we can’t own digital copies of the media. We could easily own the rights to a digital copy, the game and movie industry has just unanimously decided that they won’t allow that.
GOG DRM-free digital games are ownership
Yep, but it’s also like insanely easy to pirate (good or bad, you decide). I guess op means a system where you have your (digital) copy and can sell, give or lend it, but still it would be “protected”, and big business doesn’t allow that.
If you own it, you can copy it. No other way.
That’s not always the case, you can own something that you cannot copy?
Not for digital data
Have you heard of anti piracy measures, online checks, etc?
Well, I’m just happy that they can’t remotely delete the game from my PC’s drive if they do choose to unsell it. Unless they can with EULA clauses like “We reserve the right to remotely access and update the Product at any time” in which case, Fuck
They can make them unplayable with online checks. Hence why piracy is the only way to truly own digital media
The industry makes billions renting instead of selling their stuff, and they spend it all trying to stop piracy.
Honestly if you don’t see the inherent problem with:
I can pay money for a thing ->
Thing can suddenly vanish from existence ->
This is not theft, You are due no recompence ->
This is totally fine, actually.
… Just straight up, you have a mental disability if you think this is fine. You are cognitively impaired, you should not be trusted with any kind of decision making.
You’re just telling everyone you are a-ok with being robbed, in some certain set of conditions… any exploitative person or entity that has any experience exploiting people knows that you just have to construct a narrative/experience where the conditions of being robbed that you will accept, slowly expand and grow over time.
You are telling the world you are easy to scam and trick. And in a world where you need money to continue existing, in the vast majority of cases… this is functionally suicidality or at least self-harm/self-destructive behavior.
This is a subsection of the Great Filter. If you can’t pass this test, sorry, you’re fucked, you are too stupid to persist much longer in your environment.
This is such a logically dubious position to attempt to maintain and argue for that I very truly cannot see another explanation for it other than… the person that holds that position genuienly is cognitively diminished.
If buying isnt owning, then piracy isnt theft
Somebody needs to invent a way to rip your entire library on steam to portable installation cartridges so you just plun-n-play them
It shouldn’t be that hard. I may look into this.
Really it’s just install the game, copy the local files and apply the steam crack (for most games), maybe repack it into a nice packed executable with some lightweight compression of the files for easier storage.
I suppose the worst thing would be to manage the exceptions to the rule, games that use other drm, or that maybe need some tweaking for the steam crack to work,nor maybe need to create some extra folders to work. But for most simple games it should me enough.
Imagine having an entire library of modern games on cartridge. Look up what game to play, grab it from the shelf, No DRM, put it into a cartridge bay and hit a switch, and the computer copies part of it to RAM and runs it. Just like N64, but 10,000x bigger.
I think, most if not all games would need to be installed on the computer, as they are made like that. Running them from an external cartridge would be slow/problematic.
But at least I think it would be easy enough to have a way to mass generate rips for our steam libraries to burn on cd/dvd/blueray or to store in external drives. Then just have them installed like they were gog installers.
A significant number of games on Steam can literally just be ctrl c ctrl v’d into another directory, snd still more or less work, or be made to work if you … configured Proton through Not-Steam,.for them.
Mostly only games on Steam that have some kind of always online DRM are going to throw a shitfit in that scenario.
People seem to forget that Steam and Source were built from the ground up to support what is I guess now the ‘old school’ way of modding a game: you just literally throw more shit into the game directory, edit what is already there, etc.
You can add /any exe/ external to Steam, to Steam, and run it via Proton. … /any exe/.
I’ve managed to get fucking Cascadeur working on Linux, via Steam/Proton, lol… there are a few games I tinker with where the model or anim ripper scripts only work on Blender 3.6 for Windows… So, download Win Blender 3.6, add to Steam/Proton, run, install Windows only plugin. Voila! Bit of jank, but it does work.
Any game that somebody has figured out how to do the equivalent of… some kind of script extender, to enable mods to do more kinds of stuff?
The way those work is they basically hijack or replace the original game exe.
Any game that has been reverse engineered to this extent, you can get to run independent of Steam.
I’ve done it with CyberPunk 77, NewVegas, etc, toying with my own mod making attempts. Its not too hard to futz with configs and launch arguments to launch straight into the main CP77 exe, just skip the launch/loader thing.
You can actually just do this kinds shit for quite a lot of games.
At some point having a hard drive will become illegal.
You should be able to get video games from your local library.
Billionaires were literally put against the wall and shot, so “using your library card to play video games” should be feasible.
At least where I live, they actually do! They have video games that you can check out just like books/movies/cds. It was one of the ways I got to try out a ton of games growing up.
When were billionaires literally put against the wall and shot?
Nicholas II of Russia?
Maybe “millionaires” would have been a better choice of words, my bad
TechnicalTee is one more example how people really only consider how things impact them, not others, not their community, and not the future.
Or it’s part of a marketing initiative to encourage and make us feel safe to do that. Afterall, there is an ongoing war with marketing and public relations to shape us and our behavior. Seems pretty convenient to Sony if we all thought this way.
I don’t care about this because I quit buying and even playing games years ago as most are hardly worth the time to waste.
My husband does care about this. Despite my desires to not give this company another dollar I will have to deal with his bitching about the lack of disc and watch as he fucking spends our money (which comes from me) on another fucking piece of shit hardware I would rather never come out at all.
So what I’m saying is that gamers bitching like cunts is proof they will buy the next one and nothing more.
Must suck that your husband cares about something other than you…
Bloodeborne was 2nd handed to me after not having any gaming console for almost 15 years. I really hate that person. And would like to ruin someone else’s day by passing it on. I wonder then of the next gen consul is dead too? No physical disk readers?
Correct. The PS6 will not have physical discs at all. It’s probably the very reason they’re doing this.
I’m so tired of explaining shit to stupid people.
People like him are why gatekepeeping hobbies isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Once the flood of normies comes in, they outnumber the passionate ones and it all goes downhill from there.
Didn’t expect Trevor to be this based. Miss him on the daily show
He grew up very poor. Most of what he owned was probably second hand.
In his book, he describes running an old school mp3 pirate business.
Uh, games on DVD can’t be deleted or taken away from you (though actually they could by a firmware update). Not sure what he meant by that.
You perhaps need to read the post again
He’s attacking digital media, which isn’t really an issue as most of it you can keep on shelves and in boxes. Seems like it’s just online stores with licenses that are the problem.
Oh I see you’re being pedantic about the word digital
Gestures around
They can if they code on that physical DVD requires some kind of online DRM check to be passed before it allows the rest of the data on it to be unencrypted.
A box you cannot open, with a lock you don’t control… is not very much of a treasure.
Conversely:
A very large subset of Steam Games?
I can copy and paste them outside of the Steam Directory, run them, and they will still mostly to entirely work.
I can then burn those onto a DVD or copy them to a thumb drive or sd card or whatever, and they’ll be capable of working on any compatible system.
You’re right about that. I don’t think people realise how much blu-ray players rely on a licensed firmware encoding that has an expiry date, for instance. Your un-DRMd games and movies are yours.
Fuck Trevor Noah. Fuck that piece of shit a thousand times over.
I’m guessing nobody here knows that this POS used his platform to justify the South African regime perpetrating mass-murder on striking mineworkers here in South Africa before he jetted off to play Mister Liberal Blackface in the US?
Fuck him. He’d better not show up in the mining town where I live.
God I hate that argument ‘Your entire library can be deleted.’
Why?
deleted by creator
i get it’s an over simplified view of how ownership and ip rights work, but like, it’s basically true from there customers perspective. has it ever happened to you?
or do you hate it because it’s obvious these corporations are going to pull the rug and idiots still buy this shit?
