To be clear this is not a real product or whatever I would just be interested in people’s thoughts.
Do you think you would like privacy focused smart goggles? Eg: no camera/hardware camera lock, all on device intelligence, signal support, idk what else you guys can leave ideas in the comments.
There are no “privacy-focused” smart glasses. In fact, all of them are the exact opposite.
Lets not normalize [smart] glasses.
Why not? AR glasses which don’t film the environment but just give a HUD would be rad.
Either we normalize smart glasses or we dont. There’s nothing in between. We should not play into Metas surveillance strategy.
I’d say, b/c it’s impossible to know that by looking at the glasses.
You see a rando walking around with smart glasses. You can’t tell at a glance what it can / cannot do. So you must assume the worst.
I’m with Vegafjord oakframer. Normalization will be problematic. Maybe in a perfect world it coudl be OK. But in our world, abuse at scale is 100% inevitable. That’s why I think social pressure against smart glasses is for the best.
Or at least make them “for professional use only”, and regulate them like they’re body cams. If companies risk GDPR fines, they might self-regulate enough to take care of the problem.
talk of companies self regulating always lights up alerts in my head
It doesn’t work perfectly, but if using smart glasses anywhere outside of the restricted areas of your business risks huge whooping fines, smart glasses will only be allowed in those restricted areas. The same already goes for dangerous tools and hazardous chemicals. On a PC, you can easily screenshot and -record to create documentation or help others. Having this e.g. for a woodworking technique or to show how to replace a specific part in an engine might be a huge value add. But no one needs this shit while grabbing lunch in a public place.
i’m struggling to understand how this could be enforced at all
Keep the creep glasses where they belong, in the bottom of a garbage can
Smart glasses with HUD and speakers, and bluetooth, no cloud dependency - yes, please.
With camera - absolutely not. This would be just a hidden recording device, absolutely capable of intruding other’s privacy, regardless if it’s cloud connected or not. I realize that camera provides a lot of functionality, but I just don’t see the way how it can preserve privacy of other people and fit in glasses form factor.
Oh, and all that applies not just to camera, but also to microphone. Damn, such a good topic to talk about.
Actually, there is a way to use a camera, but I’m not sure if it’s possible from technical or usability perspectives.
Imagine a device that has a camera, but no data connectivity. No WiFi. Only USB for charging and firmware updates. Maybe BT for firmware or control from app. No memory card slot either. Internal storage reserved for system only, camera software cannot store videos or images persistently.
This will probably have to be not open source, especially if bluetooth is present - otherwise someone will figure out how to capture camera feed with a custom firmware.
But if possible, such device can use camera for smart navigation, object recognition, some basic tasks on-device, depending on how much compute (and battery) can be placed into such a small package.
That there is an oxymoron.
It would be at best, privacy for the viewer/owner but not for the viewed. Why would you buy always seeing glasses to protect the privacy of those you see?
There is no such thing as a privacy respecting camera you are pointing at others.
normalize punching glassholes if you want privacy in a “smart glasses” world
No. Absolutely no interest in 24/7 being plugged in.
I’d love a useful heads up display with things like navigation, search (as in, “where the fuck did I leave my keys, they should be in my field of view”, not “what’s the capital of italy”), and something like a dashcam, where you can retroactively playback the last X minutes if something happened, but otherwise it gets deleted automatically.
And nothing gets off the device without my consent of course.
My thought is that y’all will someday see on the news “old fucker on lemmy arrested for curb stomping some asshole with smart glasses that refused to respect his wish to not be filmed”
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Truly “privacy-focused” smart glasses wouldn’t have gesture- or voice controls: because it wouldn’t come with cameras nor microphones. It wouldn’t allow ambiguity surrounding the ability, for these devices to collect personal data without consent: “trust me bro” toggle switches (controlled by the wearer) don’t provide reasonable reassurance, to those in the vicinity of such sensors. Which would pretty much leave a heads-up display, which isn’t something for me: I like clear separations between the digital and physical world, and this seeks to further blur that line; together with the obvious surveillance implications of course…
If they are screens for viewing something with no camera, that already exists. “Smart glasses” as they were are tools for creeps to video everyone against their will
I guess if only find it remotely fine if the glasses were very obviously equipped with a camera, bulky and what not.
If not, then its just a pedo cam a guy can use at a childrens playground
There are some already, e.g. https://docs.brilliant.xyz/ with firmware you can replace or https://mentraglass.com/ and I even made one by sticking a RPi with its tiny camera on 3D printed frames https://twitter-archive.benetou.fr/utopiah/status/1449023602079240194/
I’m not saying it’s a good idea or that it’s private enough, just that it’s not a theoretical questions, alternatives to Meta or Google Glass do exist already and some of them are not cloud dependent.
IMHO what’s important is to be explicit about usage, understand how it’s used and have informed consent. If you use them to be sneaky and hurt others, even if they are “privacy focused”, fuck off.
