Taiwan has insisted it is a sovereign, independent nation, after US President Donald Trump cautioned it against formally declaring independence from China.

  • wampus@lemmy.ca
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    4 hours ago

    Something I’m really not too sure of with regards to this topic, is whether Taiwan like… pays anything to China? Like does Taiwan send some kind of tax revenue or other ongoing annual payment type thing off to China, does it use any of China’s laws/regulations locally?

    Like can’t the independence of a nation / area be objectively shown?

    • MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
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      3 hours ago

      In practical terms Taiwan is basically an independent country. Legally speaking China is in a civil Taiwan basically being a faction and a decades long ceasefire. However the length of the ceasefire, Taiwan being an island and having been a Japanese colony created a weird situation. As in a real question within Taiwan, if they are Chinese or Taiwanese and also what to do about China. However there is a pretty large majority, who do not want to have the Communist government run Taiwan in any way. So the status quo remains. Also Beijing threatens to invade, if Taipei ever calls itself not the Republic of China, but only the government of Taiwan.

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      2 hours ago

      Nope, they don’t pay anything to China, and China doesn’t pay anything to them. They have separate tax offices, separate governments (and very different models of governing), separate militaries… which sadly look at each other though targeting devices.

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    9 hours ago

    Yeah fuck Trump. Don’t listen to that shit stain, you do you Taiwan.

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    19 hours ago

    It took only a few hours after Trump warned Taiwan not to try declaring independence…

    …for the Taiwanese foreign ministry to remind that Taiwan is already independent.

    Taiwanese President Lai Ching-te has previously stated that Taiwan does not need to declare formal independence because it already sees itself as a sovereign nation.

    On Saturday, presidential spokesperson Karen Kuo said it was “self-evident” that Taiwan was “a sovereign, independent democratic country”.

    She added, however, that Taiwan was committed to maintaining the status quo with China - in which Taiwan neither declares independence from China nor unites with it.

    Many Taiwanese consider themselves to be part of a separate nation, though most are in favour of maintaining their current status.

    As for the actual consequences: in the best case, nothing changes and maybe the US will get a new president soon. Because explaining the depth of the US-Taiwan interdependence to the current president is clearly a too big job.

    The US is a client state of Taiwan just as much as Taiwan is a client state of the US. If one gets in trouble, the other also gets in trouble. Actually, most of the world gets in trouble in case of Taiwan, so everyone who needs a device with some CPU or memory has a vested interest in nothing whatsovever happening with regard to Taiwan. And this probably even includes people in mainland China, although I think they can reasonably claim to be almost independent of Taiwan. :) I certainly cannot, I honestly declare considerable dependence on Taiwan. :)

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      16 hours ago

      It took only a few hours after Trump warned Taiwan not to try declaring independence…

      It’s been standing US policy going back to the Nixon Administration not to recognize Taiwanese independence.

      You can’t lay this shitbird at Trump’s feet. Go blame Eisenhower for his choice of VP.

      • amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world
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        11 hours ago

        Yeah nothing current can be blamed on this orange turd. If it wasn’t for the ones that came before him you would be part of the UK and who knows trump would have been some sort of assistant to the king. Grow the fuck up and own the fact that us has presently fucked the entire planet by voting for these shitbirds twice.