Nobody’s considered who is gonna buy all the stuff when all the employees are laid off
I think a statistic I saw recently was that nearly 50% of American consumer spending is attributed to the top 10% of consumers.
Which would largely indicate that it doesn’t matter because those who have the money will continue to spend it and those that don’t will continue to get poorer.
This is what’s happening to Vegas, the number of visitors is dropping but the casino profit is increasing. The city no longer caters to the middle class but to millionaires.
I have always loved the saying: Lie, outrageous lie, statistic.
Data is a wonderfull thing, but it often can be really easily to be presented in a way, that while being true, is not representing the truth.
Like if we would just look the numbers containing just necessities and remove the luxury products it would not be that lopsided.
like if you removed luxury products what would this country even produce beside suffering?
Luxury products like health insurance, food, education, and independent housing?
Well I guess if you have millions of robot slaves you don’t need the people anymore at all.
They’ll give the people more debt.
China definitely doesn’t want that many workers suddenly disenfranchised and angry
Naturally? God forbid a country considers the welfare of its workers.
Why does the Chinese government worry about sudden mass unemployment in a way Western governments do not?
They’re walking a thin line between restrictive policies and QoL guarantees.
It’s hard to explain as a non-native English speaker but they basically guarantee an acceptable way of living with mobility, housing, jobs and other stuff in exchange for control, surveillance and censorship.
In Western government the equation looks different, at least for now.
Idk if the equations are different. The values are certainly different
because there’s billions of workers to riot as compared to say a few hundred million in the US.
Ding ding ding
This kicks the can down the road a bit, but I don’t see how this is cause for celebration. Businesses will just open a new company and avoid having that company hiring humans to escape labor laws that relate to job elimination. This can all likely be escaped with a little legal hopscotch.
That’s what regulation is.
Making things inconvenient over and over again so worse things don’t happen, or take significantly longer and require more concerted effort to happen. It’s a good thing. We should make it harder for bad actors to do shitty things.
Pretending something is pointless because it may not be 100% effective is absurd.
Pretending something is pointless because it may not be 100% effective is absurd.
I feel like this point needs to be made more and more lately. Perfect is the enemy of better.
Eating is also just kicking the can down the road, you’ll just get hungry again later.
I never understood this kind of argument. Everything is just kicking the can down the road, that doesn’t make it not worthwhile.
Honestly I think its China just protecting its economy, western businesses are already finding that AI now costs more than just hiring humans and gives a worse output, the chinese government is just preventing their own economy from falling into the same trap.
They say they don’t want to replace workers. They say they just want to use AI to make existing workers more efficient. Very well; let’s hold them to their word.
Because China’s government knows the last thing it needs is a bunch of unemployed people.
It’s so weird how single-party rule can sometimes be more responsive to the people. Because there’s no illusion: if the people get unhappy enough, CCP is gone.
Meanwhile the US we live with these bizarre illusions about how the people are truly in power, while our government is driven into the ground by plutocrats and their pet priests.
Will they suceed?
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It’s so they don’t have to think about/implement the utopia of no one having to work. If they made it possible for people not to need to work, those people without work would have time to educate themselves and think about how their ruling class is fucking them over, and to organize. This would probably lead to the ruling class going out of power, so they can’t have that, it’s better to keep them employed even though they don’t have to be.
Alternatively, if people go out of work and they don’t implement the no-work utopia, the ruling class loses power because people whose survival is threatened will kill their leaders.
The best the ruling class can do is keep inventing jobs no one needs and continuing to deceive people that the jobs need to be done.
Are you assuming that AI could actually effectively repkace humans? Because cost-wise it simply can’t.
No matter what AI currently means, originally it is just a term for artificial systems that can do intelligent things that previously only humans were able to do. As such, yes, I do think that AI can effectively replace humans, because it actually has done so in a lot of industries for a lot of tasks. For example, AI is a visual imaging system that can differentiate bad potatoes from good potatoes and automatically remove the bad potatoes from the conveyor belt. Previously that was done by humans, now, that is mostly done by AI.
LLMs are just the latest flavor of AI, which also can effectively replace workers for certain tasks. The tasks LLMs effectively replace workers by is very limited though, and currently, LLMs are used for too many applications for which they are not suited for, at which they are not effectively replacing workers.
For example copywriting ad texts, I think LLMs are perfectly capable of that and can and should effectively replace a large share of human workers. Solving new challenges in programming, LLMs are pretty terrible at that. Coding the 95 millionth ad website, LLMs are likely capable at that.
In an utopian society, everything is automated by AI (not LLMs) and humans can focus on whatever they want to without having to worry about anything except keeping the automation running.
Fair, I fell into the trap of equating AI with LLMs. I should know better.
