Cuz it takes like a few weeks to process and get your passport and documents back…
If the government wanted to, theoretically, they could “accidentally lose” the documents…
👀
This is actually a very real issue that is fucking me over hard now. For context, I’m a naturalized trans immigrant who fled the US. Unfortunately, my US passport is set to expire really soon and I am effectively unable to renew it. The US has been deliberately holding on to trans people’s passports by effectively dropping us into bureaucratic limbo as a way to deny us freedom of movement. It’s not even worth trying to renew for me since at best (if I’m lucky) I’d have a passport that misrepresents me, and at worst I’d be effectively stateless. The cruety is the point
Thankfully my OG birth country is coming in clutch right now. The consulate has been helping me get my non-US papers in order, but not everyone is so lucky
Edit: and the salt on the wound is that I still have to pay US taxes
If the government wanted to, theoretically, they could “accidentally lose” the documents…
Already happened to more than a few. The solid water people have also reportedly been losing/damaging documents of people they’ve detained.
Everything is russian roulette on which person is handling your paperwork that day.
The solid water people 👏
Is that an American thing I am too European to understand or am I just still sleeping
In the US, you go to a post office, and you have to hand over the physical, original copy of your proof of citizenship when apply for the first time so the postal worker can attach to the packet of stuff they send to the US Department of State… and they only give it back after they finished processing your passport application…
So while waiting… (takes a few weeks to process) you have:
-No Passport -No Certificate of Citizenship/Naturalization or Birth Certificate…
Meaning no proof of Citizenship…
Which means its kinda awkward if you get approached by government agents during this time… and have no proof of your claim to be a US Citizen…
Apparantly for people with birthright citizens, they can just get a birth certificate for like $10-$30, which I didn’t know before… TIL
But since I’m foreign-born and naturalized (or technically speaking, it’s Citizenship via Derivation under the Child Citizenship Act of 2000, but its too complicated and I don’t wanna write a paragraph on that), I would need to file a N-565 to get a replacement copy of my proof of citizenship…
And it’s $500 for the filing fee…
Yea I don’t think people are gonna really wanna spend $500 just for an extra “backup copy” they statiscally don’t need, unless it actually gets lost in the system and then they’d have no choice but to pay $500…
And that also takes time to process…
(And before you ask: Yes it is night time here, but I don’t really feel like sleeping right now lol)
Best of luck with your passport application. Hope things go smoothly.
wtf! here we just go to a place, the person takes my picture, looks at my documents (most are already online anyways) and I just go get it in the same place a week later. Wouldn’t be easier and safer for citzens to have those little kiosks?
Let’s be real, since when has the US ever done anything that is easier or safer for their citizens?
I mean, I like that you’re attempting to troll, but it kind of falls apart with a simple internet search for “state certified birth certificate copy,” if that’s the “physical document to prove your citizenship,” you’re talking about.
Oh yes. Let me get a copy of my birth certificate from the government to give to the government. No problem with that process. Very efficient.
Yeah, here the main certificate is digital, and it’s with the government.
Why would they ask for my birth certificate - they already have it.
I have derivative citizenship…
N-565 costs $500 to file
not exactly cheap
Exactly. “This sux,” is not the same as “it’s a TRAP,” hence the accusation of trolling.
I’m not saying its an literal actual trap, its more of a colloquial/casual way of saying things that some people apparantly didn’t get… 🤷♂️
Its like you know people say “the cat showing the belly is a trap” thing? Even tho not every cat would scratch you.
