• Gork@sopuli.xyz
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    20 days ago

    We could turn all that blue stuff on the map into more parking lots ya know

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          20 days ago

          Just move literally anywhere in Europe. Fucking Bulgaria has better city planning than this insanity. And public transport!

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            12 days ago

            The level of incompetence here is wild. 20 years ago Springfield MO was better than we do here.

            It’s an embarrassment.

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      20 days ago

      Spokane is a very sprawling city. It’s the second most populous in Washington but a third the density of Seattle. Including the “metropolitan area” of both Spokane is a seventh as densely populated.

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        20 days ago

        Are there lots of parking lots because it’s sprawling or is it sprawling because there are a lot of parking lots?

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          19 days ago

          A bit of both but the root is that land is comparatively cheap. Building out is economically incentivized over building up. Municipalities can put their thumb on the scale by raising land taxes based on acreage but zoning restrictions are the actual solution (and these tend to be unpopular because the immediate effect is that development costs rise and bring rents with them)

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    19 days ago

    This looked so absurd that I had to look at the satellite view to believe it but it’s true. This planet has skin cancer and it’s us.

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    20 days ago

    that’s not even the scariest part. Everyone drives through downtown likes it’s a highway. Not worth staying near the bars and food if you’re three feet from being slammed by a lifted truck going 50

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      20 days ago

      My biggest complaints are the Thor/Freya on/off ramps and the Lincoln(?) offramp going west. They are way too short, and people can be idiots. Merging there sucks.

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    19 days ago

    And most of the cars that use that parking are in use for maybe 2-3 hours per day. The rest of the time they’re just taking up space.

    We really need to get people to abandon personal cars. Even if everyone switched to electric cars we’d still need all this parking space. We’d also still have all the microplastic pollution from their tires.

    There’s a catch 22 though. A lot of people feel like they need their cars because there’s no alternative. Because of that, they oppose any law that could make cities less car-centric because it makes it harder for them. But, that just means they continue to need their cars. I don’t know how that can be fixed.

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      19 days ago

      Would honestly love to live in a building or neighborhood that maintains a fleet of cars to share. I can’t afford to operate a truck/van as a daily driver (and I honestly hate driving them), but I often find myself wishing I had a large vehicle to move stuff around in.

  • donnachaidh@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    One with roads coloured too would probably also be informative. And I feel like this could be scripted with openstreetmaps to make them for different cities and compare them…

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      19 days ago

      This is city center. The park is nice. It was the 1974 world’s fair grounds, it’s a bunch of bridges over waterfalls and there’s been a decent amount of investment / upkeep the last few years.

      The business owners in the 70s all opposed it’s construction because they didn’t think it would be good for downtown. Since then they’ve really doubled down on surface lots to charge people going to the park / mall / downtown businesses.

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    20 days ago

    Take heart that cities are capable of change, if they want to. So long as state government doesn’t get in the way.

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    20 days ago

    I made a similar map to this for Spokane a few years back. I focused on downtown and it was bad.

    Then I did one for North of the river. Holy moly it’s a sea of asphalt there.