An excellent suggestion was made to concentrate Iran conversation and posting to this mega thread. Please keep as much as you can here so that the main feed isn’t overburdened by Iran news.

  • Eczpurt@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Is there anyone that can help an out of the loop fellow such as myself? I know of the war but I have no idea how and why it started. I thought Israel was all over palestine as of late. And now everyone in the area and the USA are involved?

    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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      Who benefits from Trump’s war in Iran? The answer is disturbingly clear.

      Who wants Iran bombed off the map, for their own reasons? Who are their rivals and enemies? Perennially, the Gulf Arab states, countries like Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.

      You know, Qatar. The country that just gave Donald Trump a really, really nice $400 milion-dollar plane, a gilded flying palace for his own use both during his presidency and after?

      And you remember the United Arab Emirates, recently structuring a totally pointless crypto financial transaction so that $2 billion of it was stuffed into the Trump family’s otherwise worthless brand-new crypto financial firm?

      And you remember the Saudis who stuffed $2 billion into the pockets of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner just as Trump’s first term in office came to a close? Enough people were alarmed about that they actually bothered to come up with an excuse for what made it OK. They said, don’t worry, Jared will never again work for the U.S. government; he’s never coming back to Washington, so we’ll never have to worry about having someone involved in U.S. policy who has also been given billions of dollars by Saudi Arabia.

      Well, who was leading the negotiations on behalf of the United States with Iran before we just started this war with them? I mean, Secretary of State Marco Rubio was in St. Kitts and Nevis. It wasn’t him. It was Jared Kushner, who was recently paid billions of dollars by Iran’s chief rival, sitting alongside Trump’s tiny real estate friend, Steve Witkoff, whose son recently sought to improve his family fortunes by going to Qatar to seek money from its sovereign wealth fund.

      https://sh.itjust.works/post/56168528

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        All of those ties just go to show what contempt for those states US/Trump has, the fools thought they were buying, compared to Israel supremacy. Gulf states being weaker is also bestest for Israel, and if they complain too hard about being mistreated, they will get Venezuelaed.

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      2 days ago

      Trump is desperate to keep the Epstein files out of the spot light so he is doing anything to keep attention elsewhere. As soon as the Winter Olympics stopped distracting people, the orange pedophile launch the USA into war.

      On the other part, Netanyahu needs to keep Israel in war so his own corruption trials do not catch up to him… with Palestine raised razed to the ground, Iran is the next target

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      From my perspective, it seems like Israel knows what they have with Trump; a willing patsy who will enact their agenda, as long as they stroke his ego. So you have US-Iran talks making some level of headway, then Netanyahu whispering in his ear about how this makes him look week on terror, goading the US into action. And because Trump is Trump, he’s going to do what he thinks makes him look good and earns him and his billionaire friends money, which is wartime. So while the war itself seems pretty unpopular domestically across most political spectrum, this allows him to fulfill his own vain purposes by Israel continuing to stroke his ego, he gets to feel like the big heroic man he wishes he was by saving the world in his mind, and his echo chamber cabinet won’t go against him, so everyone says this is the right thing to do.

      And then also what everyone else says; this distracts from Epstein Files, this is part of his lead-in to trying to take over the midterms and reduce election viability through restricting mail in and electronic voting (were gonna have 2 million people vote in a single precinct in New York, LA, Chicago, etc) while rural red districts breeze on through? It’s all a ploy to keep GOP in power. It’s the most thinly veiled coup ever, and half the nation is eating it up simply because it’s “their guy”.

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        Also, the GOP is aging out. The Boomers are thinning. The Silent Generation is all but gone. The skeletons are coming out of the closet all the way up to the Supreme Court.

        Information moves too quickly now. They can’t keep the cat in the bag anymore. That’s why they’re snapping up ownership of all the news networks and social media platforms or forcing them to spy on us and figure out who we are. AI can do weeks of research in hours and doesn’t get fatigued by massive releases of documents and every average person can wield it to see for themselves.

        Israel is no longer the darling ally in latest polls. And we have no real Big Bad. When they try to manufacture one, we see right through the malarkey.

        They know they’re probably done, and maybe forever if they lose this time. Goodbye cushy lifestyles and jobs, and their generational wealth. And of course they will have to answer for all their evil deeds if they are forced to relinquish power to a party that is currently getting lambasted for being do-nothing, hand wavy, arrogant, status-quo keeping corporate shill sellouts.