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      Trump did this last term too, we killed their intelligence chief when he landed for peace talks with Iraq.

      This is a war crime, BTW. Attacking someone under a perceived state of truce or ceasefire is called “perfidy”.

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          I still remember 2017, when Donald decided to drop the MOAB on Afghanistan and Fareed Zakaria praised him effusively on CNN.

          Guess he learned the lesson.

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          Its like, I want my country to be better but I know the millions looking for karma arent going to let it happen.

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      This is the second time they’ve bombed Iran during peace talks. I know it feels like a million years, but it only happened last June.

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        with everything going on, it does feel like it was a million year ago

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      Who the fuck would trust America with Donald Trump on charge. Dude lies to he’s suit tailor. That’s how vain he is. Add in the fact that he’s being blackmailed into this and is a pedophile. I wouldn’t trust trump to watch my dog for an hour, let alone nuclear war.

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    For any US soldier reading this thread: you are attacking another country to cover up for your pedophile president.

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      A trophy, photoshoot and bribe for stolen land, all paid by working class. Brilliant. Art of the deal - never trade with your money, lives are worth nothing (on wall street)

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    Iran signaled thgat they were going to give them everything they asked for so they attacked instead. They never wanted a deal, they wanted a reason to start a new zionist war on the American taxpayers dime.

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      Iran already had a nuclear agreement with the USA and other countries, which Trump tore up during his first term before he bombed them. Then a few years later they’re about to agree to his replacement deal and, as they prepare to sign, Trump bombs them.

      No one will want to negotiate anything with the USA after Trump’s behaviour in the past year. No agreement with the USA is worth the paper it’s written on.

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        This just taught the world when dealing with the USA you strike first. I’m of the mind this is the start of WW3 now because I doubt the other BRIC countries don’t get involved.

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          I’m of the mind this is the start of WW3 now because I doubt the other BRIC countries don’t get involved.

          What? None of them are going to do that for Iran.

          Also what are they going to do…? Even the UK is attacking Iran at this point. And almost every other country doesn’t actually give a shit. And hated the Ayatollah.

          Even Iran is going to respond halfheartedly.

          This is why the bullies are doing it.

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    US: “You can’t enrich uranium!”

    Iran: “We reluctantly agree to this term.”

    US: Bombs Iran anyway

    We live in a clown country 🤡

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      US: “You can’t enrich uranium!”

      Iran: “We reluctantly agree to this term.”

      US: “Oh fuck, we were hoping for more resistance, it’s only a cover for stealing your oil.”

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      That’s not entirely what happened. Though you do live in a clown country.

      After US withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal, Iran did continue to still follow the terms for quite a while in hopes that the US would once again rejoin (presumably).

      Then the US assasinated an Iranian general or major, could be mistaken. Either way, they assasinated someone. Iran, shockingly, wasn’t all too impressed and quite upset about the whole ordeal, so they said fuck it… if that’s how you wanna play, we’re gonna do whatever we want.

      And then now, you have US and Israel both striking Iran, with the justification that Iran was “about to strike us first”.

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      I would link the meme of Kim Jung Un telling his daughter this is why we have nuclear weapons, but I didn’t save it.

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    Invite diplomats for peace talks then start bombing their home while their away. So typical.

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    Selected excerpts from:

    THE THEORY AND PRACTICE OF

    OLIGARCHICAL COLLECTIVISM

    by

    Emmanuel Goldstein


    Chapter III

    War is Peace


    The splitting up of the world into three great super-states was an event which could be and indeed was foreseen before the middle of the twentieth century.

    […]

    The frontiers between the three super-states are in some places arbitrary, and in others they fluctuate according to the fortunes of war, but in general they follow geographical lines.

    […]

    In one combination or another, these three super-states are permanently at war, and have been so for the past twenty-five years. War, however, is no longer the desperate, annihilating struggle that it was in the early decades of the twentieth century. It is a warfare of limited aims between combatants who are unable to destroy one another, have no material cause for fighting and are not divided by any genuine ideological difference. This is not to say that either the conduct of war, or the prevailing attitude towards it, has become less bloodthirsty or more chivalrous.

    On the contrary, war hysteria is continuous and universal in all countries, and such acts as raping, looting, the slaughter of children, the reduction of whole populations to slavery, and reprisals against prisoners which extend even to boiling and burying alive, are looked upon as normal, and, when they are committed by one’s own side and not by the enemy, meritorious. But in a physical sense war involves very small numbers of people, mostly highly-trained specialists, and causes comparatively few casualties. The fighting, when there is any, takes place on the vague frontiers whose whereabouts the average man can only guess at, or round the Floating Fortresses which guard strategic spots on the sea lanes.

    In the centres of civilization war means no more than a continuous shortage of consumption goods, and the occasional crash of a rocket bomb which may cause a few scores of deaths. War has in fact changed its character. More exactly, the reasons for which war is waged have changed in their order of importance. Motives which were already present to some small extent in the great wars of the early twentieth century have now become dominant and are consciously recognized and acted upon.


    To understand the nature of the present war – for in spite of the regrouping which occurs every few years, it is always the same war – one must realize in the first place that it is impossible for it to be decisive.

    […]

    In any case each of the three super-states is so vast that it can obtain almost all the materials that it needs within its own boundaries. In so far as the war has a direct economic purpose, it is a war for labour power. Between the frontiers of the super-states, and not permanently in the possession of any of them, there lies a rough quadrilateral with its corners at […] containing within it about a fifth of the population of the earth. It is for the possession of these thickly-populated regions, and of the northern ice-cap, that the three powers are constantly struggling.

    In practice no one power ever controls the whole of the disputed area. Portions of it are constantly changing hands, and it is the chance of seizing this or that fragment by a sudden stroke of treachery that dictates the endless changes of alignment.

    All of the disputed territories contain valuable minerals […]. But above all they contain a bottomless reserve of cheap labour.

    Whichever power controls equatorial Africa, or the countries of the Middle East, or Southern India, or the Indonesian Archipelago, disposes also of the bodies of scores or hundreds of millions of ill-paid and hard-working coolies. The inhabitants of these areas, reduced more or less openly to the status of slaves, pass continually from conqueror to conqueror, and are expended like so much coal or oil in the race to turn out more armaments, to capture more territory, to control more labour power, to turn out more armaments, to capture more territory, and so on indefinitely.

    It should be noted that the fighting never really moves beyond the edges of the disputed areas.

    […]