Right now, deleting a post on Lemmy only hides it locally, but doesn’t fully remove it across the fediverse. I understand the technical reasons behind this, but from a user perspective it feels incomplete.

Platforms should give users the ability to fully delete their own content, or at least send a federated deletion request to other instances. This is important for privacy, safety, and user control.

Is full deletion planned, or is there a technical limitation preventing it? I’d like to understand what’s possible and whether this feature is on the roadmap.

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    As a general note, the design of Lemmy is around preserving information against censorship over having private conversations (like Matrix for example). You’re probably aware that once data is delivered to other servers, the origin server can’t guarantee deletions of data from them.

    I’m not an admin, but I remember that Lemmy admins are able to purge content from their server, and send out a request for other servers to purge their copy of data which by default would be accepted if received from the canonical server. This was used to remove some harmful content that was posted on Lemmy a few times. This feature isn’t user accessible, at least as of now.

    Media uploaded to Lemmy by the user can be deleted.

    Edits are propagated through federation, so if you are concerned, you can edit posts you want to delete before deleting them which is close enough.

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      2 months ago

      Thanks for the detailed explanation — this helps clarify a lot. I understand that federation makes guaranteed deletion impossible, but knowing that admins can purge content and send out a federated delete request is exactly the kind of mechanism I was hoping existed.

      From a user perspective, having some version of that available — even if it can’t guarantee 100% deletion everywhere — would still be meaningful. A user‑initiated delete request that other servers can respect would give people more control over their own content without undermining federation.

      Editing before deleting is a good workaround, but it still feels like something that could eventually be built into the platform in a more direct way. I appreciate the insight; it’s good to know this isn’t a dead end technically.

  • Coleman Laing@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 months ago

    The solution: A three‑layer deletion model This is the only model that satisfies both Lemmy’s architecture and user expectations.

    Layer 1 — Local hard deletion (guaranteed) When a user deletes a post/comment:

    the content is wiped from their home server

    the object can remain as a placeholder to preserve thread structure

    media files are fully removed

    This part is already possible.

    Layer 2 — Federated delete signal (best‑effort) When deletion happens, the home server sends a message:

    “This content is deleted — purge your copy.”

    Servers that respect federation will:

    delete their cached copy

    update the thread

    remove the content from search

    Servers that don’t care will ignore it — but that’s already true today.

    This is the missing piece Lemmy needs to implement.

    Layer 3 — User‑initiated purge request (optional escalation) Admins already have a purge tool that:

    deletes content locally

    sends a federated purge request

    is accepted by most servers

    Expose this to users in a controlled way:

    rate‑limited

    confirmation required

    optional admin approval

    This gives users real deletion power without enabling abuse.

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      2 months ago

      You say you understand the technical limitations, then immediately ask if there are technical limitations in the next paragraph? And then this comment is clearly written by an LLM. Maybe if you tried to use your brain you’d have better luck.

      • Coleman Laing@lemmy.worldOP
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        2 months ago

        I’m trying to understand the current behavior as clearly as possible, which is why I asked for clarification. The replies from others in the thread have helped fill in the gaps about how deletion works across different servers.

        My goal isn’t to argue about federation limits — it’s to understand whether the user‑side deletion experience can be improved, even if perfect deletion across all nodes isn’t possible. That’s the part I’m trying to explore here.