If so, can you explain the value aside from changing location for streaming?

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    Just my use cases:

    • Piracy
    • I don’t need my ISP knowing everything I do regardless of legality.
    • I don’t need dickhead network admins knowing everything I do on their network, regardless of legality.
    • I don’t need every website knowing my identity regardless of legality.
    • newpipe always takin’ 'bout some goddamn “sign in to confirm u no bot” and hell no I’m just gonna reroll my location and oh look that worked.
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    Everything you do in the internet is being shared with data brokers who then sell your info and you dont get a cut!

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    Who do you trust more, the neighbor who closes their blinds or the neighbor running around house to house trying to look in everyone’s windows?

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    It’s completely legal for me to watch 70s pornography while drinking hard liquor and painting pentagrams on my walls and sacrificing small animals to Baal.

    I’m not going to videotape it and show my grandmother.

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      watch 70s pornography

      Ahh… Orthodox Muslim countries exist

      drinking hard liquor

      Ahh… Regular Muslim countries exist.

      sacrificing small animals to Baal

      Ahh… What is your definition of small?

      videotape it and show

      Hyperbolic for the average person.

      You use VPN because you don’t want your ISP selling data about you to a data broker, and you don’t want your government to get that data for free.
      Data about you, even if not about illegal activities, can be used to manipulate you.

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    Some things should be private. Some things should be secret. Not because there’s anything wrong with them, but simply because they’re yours and you want to keep them that way.

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    Would you be fine with a corporation/government putting a camera in everyones house? It’s fine, since you’re not doing anything illegal, so there is really no problem. And think of how many crimes could be stopped. VPN is more about privacy than getting away with anything illegal. ISP’s collect all users browsing data and sells it off to the highest bidder. They sit between you and the services you want, so they see it all. With a VPN they know how much traffic there is, but they just know it is going through a VPN and nothing more

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    It is not about illegal. It is more of “under the radar”.

    • Say, you want to watch a video on youtube but it is geolocked? Start your VPN and BAM! It is not locked anymore.

    • Want to tip your toes in selfhosting and Arr stack but government is grabbing torrent users by the balls? VPN will cover your back.

    • Do not like your ISP to log your traffic to sell to marketers? Make them lose their minds not knowing what you do by routing traffic through VPN.

    • Hate ads on Youtube? Change to Mongolia and you wont have ads on youtube anymore (uBO is actually better for that).

    • Government wants your ID to visit adult content sites? VPN is on the case!

    Also, as a side effect you are less likely to get hacked if you use VPN since all your activity comes from an IP address that is not associated with your device.

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    Back in the days before cell phones, when landlines were ubiquitous, people in more rural areas had what they called “party lines.” It was a single telephone line shared between multiple houses. You knew which house an incoming call was for based on the ring pattern. Your neighbors could also pick up the receiver, very quietly, and listen in on your phone calls if they wanted too.

    Party lines are long gone but Internet communications have their own ways of being “listened in on.” A lot of traffic transmitted over the Internet is encrypted; with TLS for instance. But, some of it isn’t. If you use traditional DNS – UDP over port 53 – everyone in between you and the DNS server can see which websites you’re visiting.

    I’m not concerned about my privacy because I have something to hide. I’m concerned about it because my personal business is my business. Not anyone else’s.

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    I am all up for privacy and I have tried to follow a lot of procedures for it but I have never used VPN (except TOR, which technically is not a VPN).

    I actually appreciate the concept of VPN but I think how it is marketed is a bit over exaggeration. VPN is useful when you want to do something securely without the fear of being tracked, access things that are blocked by a tyrannical government, or if you want to watch shows in your region that is not available without VPN (one of the advertisement that VPN providers use). However, I do raise one of my eyebrow a bit on the scale of advertisement VPN put up. E.g. you cannot have not heard about Nord and Surfshark vpn (owned by the same company). I don’t want to complain about their service as they seem to be one of the best ones out there, and customers seem to be satisfied. But I am perplexed how aggressive their advertisement is. Also they make dubious claims in their ads that ASA (UK) had to step in. They also had their servers breached and exposes some private keys as well as some usernaems and passwords.

    The same way I am perplexed about the level of advertisement of OperaGx “the gaming browser” and Honey.

    I do trust ‘free vpn’ less that vpns.

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      From what Ive heard, vpn’s are just incredibly profitable. But yeah, anything advertised that aggressively is an immediate red flag for me.

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    “Give me the man and I will give you the case against him.”

    It’s not about whether or not you’re doing anything wrong, it’s about how the powers that be can decide at any point that what you’re doing is wrong when it’s convenient to them.

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    I would recommend using it only in the programs that actually need it, but it will be useless, for example, for banks, stores like Amazon, and so on, if you’ve already given them all your location information. A VPN is useful for browsing the internet, messaging with family, exchanging crypto, and on social networks where you don’t share personal information. For now, we can create a separate identity while we still have the opportunity

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    I don’t know much about computer networks but all I know is when I go to my friend’s house he insists I connect to his Wi-Fi but I use my VPN I don’t know why but I always do because I learned from Reddit and Lemmy & YouTube type people that VPNs are a wise thing to use, and it upsets him I think because he cannot spy on what I’m doing. Because he has mentioned in the past some people who lived in his house he spied on all their internet activity because they were doing bad things. So if he could spy on people’s internet activity when they are connected to his Wi-Fi in his house, he probably could spy on mine too but apparently he couldn’t because I was using a VPN 🤷🏼‍♀️

    I don’t do anything nefarious or unethical on the internet, but I’d rather not my boyfriend be spying on everything I do. Just like I wouldn’t want anybody staring at me constantly all day long, that’s creepy. I just use the internet as my leisure time until I fall asleep.

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      If you want a simple explanation why he couldn’t spy:

      Imagine that your internet traffic is a bunch of letters. HTTP are postcards. You can read the message and destination both. HTTPS are envelopes. You cannot read the message, but you can see the destination.

      When using VPN, you stick every letter/postcard in another envelope, addressed to the VPN company’s address. They unpack the letter, set themselves as the return address, and send it on.

      Your friend could previously look at the outside of your letters, and see who you’re sending to, and how much. Now, they can only see you’re sending to the VPN company, which isn’t helpful. (In theory, they can see the volume of data, but there isn’t much they can learn with just that).