• Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club
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    I fear wishful thinking, gaming consumers (demand) don’t wield such power over supply.

    The format doesn’t work as well but lemmy try …

    Perhaps …

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      This is a better version imo. These companies are going to kill consumerism of the PC market soon enough. It will take some time, like 20 years or so I imagine given the current landscape and old inventory, but these are the starting steps.

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        IMHO it’s already dead.

        Nobody’s made RAM actually targeting the specs in the standards for years; the sticks ship with built-in overclocking settings for one or the other proprietary system, and the boards expect the sticks to already be on their Qualified Vendor List to actually work right. The interface between the RAM and the motherboard is ceasing to be a legitimate extension point.

        There’s two people who make CPUs, not to any spec but to work with their own other chips that need to already be on the board, which are then driven by firmware software basically supplied by the CPU makers. When the CPU makers update their base firmware bundles, the board makers skin and ship it. In the distant past, one could slot competing CPUs from different vendors into the same board, and they would execute BIOS software fundamentally under the control of the board makers. The interface between the CPU and the board has long since ceased to be a legitimate extension point.

        The real remaining extension point is PCIe, and since its dominant use is to attach exactly one ever-widening GPU from one of two (or perhaps now three! How spoiled for choice we are!) manufacturers, each year fewer slots are provided. The target customer only needs one, and it needs as much physical clearance as humanly possible. A case will have 7 or 8 slots on the back and a board will provide two slots to plug anything in, one to actually use and one to be able to claim that there’s more than one slot. And each year there’s less stuff to put in there (who buys sound cards?) and more stuff (fast networking, wifi, fancy USB) is integrated into the board.

        And all these components have started to acquire fancy molded plastic and metal casings, to the point where it’s not clear why they need a separate enclosure around them.

        So the net result is you obtain one fancy shrouded box from Lenovo, or you purchase two fancy shrouded boxes and plug them together, and you call the result a “PC”. And then on the software side it’s a terminal for a Microsoft account, which you use to run a client for fetching from Steam, which you use to load client software for talking to live services. And now the people orchestrating all this are wondering why they bother actually mailing you the boxes.

        This is very deeply not personal computing.

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        Yes, everything will be a subscription service effectively killing foss & PCs.

        Soon we will be illegally trading old PC hardware amongst ourselves until it eventually fails (which is only a few decades for the newer chips), hunted & persecuted by the matacorps.

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      Yeah. It’s more like this. If gamers had this kind of power things would not get worse every year.

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    Yeah… allow me to doubt those gamers…

    Are those gamers the same that whine about FC26 being a copy-paste of FC25 and then proceed to buy it full price?

    Or the same whinning about the last COD being ai slop in a review after 358 hours of gameplay?

    Or those saying “I won’t buy another pokemon game ever after the last shit they released” just to then buy the new shit they make?

    A few gamers will boycot, but most of them are going to keep buying everything from their favourite series non-stop because, apparently, they can’t live without it.

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    The last two people are the same person.

    They might be buying up hardware with AI as their excuse today, but tomorrow they will be indefinately renting you processing power that you’re unable to buy(because they cornered and manipulated the hardware market)

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      because they cornered and manipulated the hardware market

      Makes me think of the ‘First Time?’ meme but with the housing market wearing the noose.

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    Here I am, happy with my 10 yo desktop, playing games from my backlog, and teaching my kids to play Duck Tales and Dynablaster. Can’t wait for to introduce them to The Secret of Monkey Island and Sam and Max Hit the Road. From what I hear, most parents in my neighbourhood are doing something similar, so there’s little peer pressure to get the latest hardware to play the latest games.

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      My best friends’ kid’s favorite console is an old laptop with N64 and Playstation emulators on it i gave them a while back. They call all the old games ‘real’ <franchise name>

      Like real Zelda, and real Mario cart.

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    Oh sure, its the gamers who are doing the beating huh?

    I doubt ai companies are scared of us… but maybe they should be.

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      Idk watching companies do increasingly insane anti customer shit and people still just gobbling it up, nobody is scared of gamers, they love them, they shell out no matter what!

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      In a sane world this would be true, but unfortunately we live in a capitalist hell scape where its the exact opposite.

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      It could happen if the niche audience get to know about these things. How many streamers do you think they are aware of these topics? They only do stream on niche games with sponsors and free games from epic.

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    Maybe we should shift piracy operations from digital games to physical shipping containers full of tasty RAM.

    The booty is out there somewhere maties! 🏴‍☠️