• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Had a couple of lady friends who went on vacation to Europe - Spain and France, specifically - and had totally different experiences on the dating apps. Men were open and friendly, knew how to hold up a conversation (in non-native languages!), showed politeness, responded quickly, made first contact easy and low-anxiety, looked good, smelled nice, knew how to dance, charmed the panties right off them both, and then kept in contact afterwards. Like, even after they flew back home, these guys were still saying “Hey, what’s up, here’s something cool happening in my neighborhood can’t wait to see you again”.

    Just a radically different experience than the American dating scene. One friend straight up swore off American men entirely. She’s booking a flight back to France for a three month go - working remote, learning the language, the whole thing - because of how blown away by the healthier and happier social conditions over there.

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        It’s a two way street. Some people need to go to some completely different place to relax enough, and some other people bet on tourists being relaxed enough.

        I even remember that kind of effect from school, during school time I would always get into fights with kids that I was happily hanging around with in the holidays.

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        4 days ago

        Tourist hunters are different. They know France is, for some reason, the first worldwide destination and flock here to steal your wallets. They’ll be on the steps to the Sacré Cœur to tie a bit of string around your wrist while a comparse grabs your wallet, your keys, your underwear and your toupee.

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        4 days ago

        The apps reflect the underlying culture and social order. They weren’t the only reason. Go spend a week in the south of France after spending half your life in Galveston and you’ll understand.

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              4 days ago

              So you recognize that the situation you described is an exceptional case, and not one to recommend making radical life changes over?

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                4 days ago

                Really depends on your circumstances. There’s nothing radical about changing careers or finding a nicer place to live when you’ve hit a glass ceiling. Humans have been doing that for tens of thousands of years. It’s why we’re not all living in the Fertile Crescent.

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      It’s exactly as you say, people in France and some other places in southern Europe like italy and spain actually know how to treat women properly. and they don’t even have “feminism” (i.e. forced smiles and if you don’t behave you go to jail) there. What they have is common sense and centuries of experience with how to actually treat women well.

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        4 days ago

        they don’t even have “feminism”

        I mean, they do have feminism. The trick to understanding feminism is to recognize how it benefits both genders when the walls of segregation and elitism come down.

        Once you’re able to treat each other as peers, rather than income streams or commodities, you develop the kind of common sense they enjoy.

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      5 days ago

      Prepare for a changed experience. europe is hating the USA and US americans more and more every day. I get the ick when i hear americans on the street. Gtfo and kill trump.

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        5 days ago

        This is bad and you should actively attack these feelings. The majority of us despise this guy.