• Bwaz@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Canada is in NATO. NATO countries are obligated to defend Canada if it is attacked.

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      17 days ago

      I really wouldn’t bank in that.

      Most nations are also required to prevent or punish genocide when they recognize it. And yet…

      • HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works
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        16 days ago

        Article 5 isn’t voluntary.

        NATO’s Article 5 is consistent with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, which recognises that a state that is the victim of an armed attack has the inherent right to individual or collective self-defence, and may request others to come to its assistance. Within the NATO context, Article 5 translates this right of self-defence into a mutual assistance obligation.

        https://www.nato.int/en/what-we-do/introduction-to-nato/collective-defence-and-article-5

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          16 days ago

          “may request others” doesn’t make it sound very obligatory. The actual obligation as written is for each nation to take “such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force”, leaving it up to each nation to decide for themselves what is necessary.

          What exactly is Canada going to do to other NATO countries that don’t respond sufficiently? There is no penalty clause.

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            16 days ago

            Funny. You seemed to have completely ignored the part where it finishes with “mutual assistance obligation”. Or maybe you just didn’t read far enough.

            Care to try again?

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              15 days ago

              Maybe you’ll believe the Center for European Policy Analysis

              The Article 5 wording is vague. It states that an attack against one member “shall be considered an attack against them all.” What is quoted less often is that each member state only has an obligation to take “such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force.”

              In other words, Article 5 does not commit member states to deploy military assets if an ally is attacked. It only commits them to some form of response.

              But, what do they know anyways?

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              16 days ago

              Did you miss where “mutual assistance” is completely undefined. I’ll stick with my original answer. I’m sure NATO will come right to Canada’s assistance with an angry condemnation of US aggression at the UN.

              Laws with no penalty clauses aren’t really laws, they are suggestions. Penalty clauses that can’t be enforced would be worthless anyways. Article 5 is an aspersion, nothing more.

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        16 days ago

        Haven’t you learned by now that rules mean nothing? It doesn’t matter what a piece of paper says that nations have to do, what matters is what they will do

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    16 days ago

    We need to become nuclear armed. For a nation of this size to prevent a US coup, there is no other option. Trump does not respect anything but force and the world has been unable to teach him any other lesson.

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      15 days ago

      Let’s just cut to the chase and nuke ourselves. That’s where that ends, and at least they don’t get anything.

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        15 days ago

        Canada’s only option is not to aspire to defend against America but to make any attempt so costly that even a victory would end in ruin.

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      17 days ago

      It’s an article by Charlie Angus, former NDP member of Parliament of Canada. He is somebody Canadians can trust and is definitely not a Nazi.

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          16 days ago

          I’ve heard the roman alphabet is exclusively used when Nazis write online… True defenders of freedom only use ____________

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        17 days ago

        Should move his blog off of the Nazi enabling platform.

        Is he on Mastodon or another spineless politician only on X, Instagram and Facebook?

        Edit: Also never called the author a Nazi. Substack are for platforming and enabling monetization of Nazi content.

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          16 days ago

          You suggest Mr. Angus is spineless for not having a Mastodon account and I take issue with that…

          He has stepped up to call for US boycotts and to organize the Canadian resistance. In fact I’d call him one of the few Canadians who have shown their spine and used their position to bring the idea of a resistance movement to the masses. He’s amplified his message now collaborating with Meidas Touch Network.

          It’s true that Substack isn’t the best platform of this type, there are better alternatives, and Nazis and many nasty people use it and profit from it. However, quibbling over this platform Mr. Angus uses in a way that dismisses his works frankly is quite irritating to me. Excuse me for venting frustration at you. Link to Mr. Angus’ Youtube Channel as an alternative

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            16 days ago

            I suggested the majority of politicians are spineless and are refusing to get up from the Nazi table or leave American oligarchs corporate media. Calling for American boycotts while also refusing to leave their tech/platforms is still fucking hypocritical.

            Even if someone does something you approve of you can still criticize their hypocrisy.

            Now please take your irritation out on some Nazis or .ml tankies instead.

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                15 days ago

                Who the fuck is says to “lock her up”? Who is her in this context? And are you serious that oblivious to what’s going on at .ml?

                This conversation is about Substack enabling the monetization of Nazis and the people using their services propping them up.

                Go take your meds old mad. It’s not 2025 anymore.

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          17 days ago

          +1

          It’s be like Nazi opposition only participating in debates set up by Nazis to foil them. They should at least validate the alternatives with their presence.

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      16 days ago

      What’s the deal with Substack that makes it a Nazi enabling platform?

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    17 days ago

    Maduro and Trump are friends

    Maduro gets to escape his country and save face instead of being assassinated or executed.

    Trump gets to manufacture a conflict so he can start martial law and become a dictator, and to distract from us learning he came inside little girls.