Eat shit, musk
This is the comment I was looking for.
Tesla is on the way down in every major market China/USA/EU, So it won’t be long before Tesla isn’t number 2 either. VW is clearly the leader in EU, but they are not so strong in either USA or China. So maybe Hyundai or Toyota will be the next brand to surpass Tesla?
IMO VW group has the best affordable EV’s currently, I just bought a VW ID.4 last month, but if I had the money, I would have bought a BMW or Mercedes. But the ID.4 is still a very nice car and I’m quite happy with it. 😎
In a few years Tesla will probably be behind BYD, Geely, Xpeng, Toyota, Hyundai and VW group.
On the technology they are already way behind the Chinese brands on charging, and VW, BMW and Mercedes on quality. Probably also behind Hyundai.
Toyota is only getting started on BEV, so I’m not really counting them yet. But I am confident they will compete in the top soon.Check price… Start at 41k. Yeah… “Affordable”… Maybe for a rich middle-class man. But for the vast majority, affordable would be around 20-25k brand new, knowing that most lower class families would rather buy a 5-10k used ICE car that a brand new electric car.
I bought it used at half the price from new. But yes affordable may be overstating it, what I meant was non luxury.
However there are affordable BEV now that start at half the price of the VW ID.4, and some of them are actually pretty decent.
I just preferred the bigger more luxurious car used at a similar price.
Wait… People are still buying Teslas?
Well, Musk’s companies sure seem to be buying quite a few, so I’m sure that’s helping him too.
That’s only going to make the inevitable crash of tesla take down the rest of his companies as well.
He’s said as much too.
At least he understands lol
Hopefully we can buy them in Canada soon.
Yeah, I don’t understand the huge tariff on Chinese EVs. They’ve counter tariffed our canola, hurting the farmers. And we don’t produce EVs, at least not the category they make.
In Europe we do produce EV, so tariffs make sense considering BYD and similar cars price are due to heavy CCP subsidies (direct and indirect). Sure the labor is cheap there, but not enough to sell cars that low.
You got batteries sold way under manufacturing price, but only for cars build by Chinese manufacturer (foreign manufacturers never get such discounts), you got various subsidies and payment facilities, unrestricted access to China rare earth monopoly, among other schemes.
