I use it because it has a built in adblocker, and well it just works.
There is some crypto bullfuck and AI shit you can easily opt out off, and some talk about some CEO making homophobic comments.
In addition to what others have said, Peter Thiel’s Founders Fund invested in Brave. You know, the Palantir guy who thinks Greta Thunberg is the antichrist? I’m not going within a country mile of anything his blood money touches when I can help it.
I stopped using Brave years ago but this should be the biggest motivator to get away from the browser. The thought of what Peter Thiel is probably getting from that deal is awful.
It’s a crypto scam wrapped in a protection racket, built by an incompetent misogynist asshole on a base that supports Google’s hegemony over web standards.
Ahh yes. Brave the bloated browser with very dodgy behaviour. You get a chrome fork with crypto shit, leaky VPN, ridiculously bad search, and a full blown ad engine that hijacks your notifications and tracks you in an ‘anonymized’ way. FUCK.THAT.SHIT.
There is some crypto bullfuck and AI shit you can easily opt out off, and some talk about some CEO making homophobic comments.
I feel like you know the reasons already then.
If having to install an adblocker is the biggest hurdle that means you are willing to put up with the rest of the BS, that’s your choice.
I’d rather take 40 seconds to install a adblocker on a different browser and not support shit CEOs or software that comes loaded with crypto AI shit, but that’s just me.
Because crypto bro behaviour and I can install ublock in my firefox browser in both android and desktop.
What makes/does Brave better?
All those browser extensions you need to make Firefox private ends up fingerprinting you. Brave has all of that by default, so sites of sites can’t easily differentiate you from other Brave users.
Also, Firefox still doesn’t have tab groups on mobile. Chromium has had that feature for years and Firefox hasn’t bothered to keep up at all. That’s a non-starter for me
Fingerprinting
Not important to me. But understandable
tab groups
I actively disable that on everything I use it with (even in the about:config flag)
Then switch to a Firefox fork that’s built for security rather than a Slop Browser built on data mining you (that’s all the built-in AI is) and that’s supporting crypto shit and has a bigoted CEO
You’re forgetting the major point that Firefox still doesn’t have tab groups on mobile. That’s a complete dealbreaker. If they can’t be bothered to do that I would honestly be better off running Tor
Tried to see if there’s a browser extension for that?
Also, this really feels like the one meme from community.
You’re the blonde girl right now
I can excuse homophobia, crypto, and AI slop, but I draw the line at not having tab groups
Have you not been paying attention to Mozilla lately? They’re barely any better on this.
And on the racism point, we’re talking about an internet browser. If you’re going that far you’d have to throw out the Call of Cthulu rpg because Lovecraft was a racist or stop driving cars because Henry Ford was a Nazi.
We’re comparing 2 different browsers, and the one everyone is recommending here (Firefox) is filling itself with AI and ads just like the one you’re all bashing. The only difference is one has a feature that I can’t do without, and Mozilla has been completely dropping the ball for years at catching up.
Get your red herring bullshit out of here.
And FYI, don’t bother responding. You’re clearly not arguing in good faith and you’re not worth wasting any more time on
Then just use a fork.
May as well cause Lovecraft
No, cause he’s long dead, idiot. The homophobic asshole CEO is still alive
the ceo is the creator of javascript, some alone would say thats a big enough sin, but the man has also donated money to anti lgbtq bills before, so more than just offhand comments.
Also, in addition to what others said, Brave has been involved in some shady stuff like ad substitution/injection. See:
https://thelibre.news/no-really-dont-use-brave/
Similarly enough, Brendan Eich’s feed also contains some worrying content, in my opinion. Ranging from, again, retweeting right-wing activists, to weird Republican propaganda. He claims to be independent and not a Republican, but this does not make me any less worried about the type of ideas he follows.
But yeah, if you are a big fan of AI and crypto, and are okay with having advertisements in the user interface out of the box, are okay with past attempts to steal money from websites and collect donations towards people who wouldn’t necessarily even receive it, plus you can put up with occasional privacy mistakes… use Brave!
Privacy guides.org has a lot of steps to making brave not crapware
Seems like a 🚩
Why use Brave when you can use Helium or Cromite?
Helium has full (not lite) ublock origin built in, and no junk. That’s the gold standard of Adblock.
Cromite has rather obsessive antifingerprinting, making it extremely difficult to track you compared to Brave.
Basically, people use Brave because it’s got SEO; it’s the first result when people type in “Adblock browser” unfortunately.
It’s chromium based, I’d rater a more open web, so I use FF
Just use Firefox or Floorp with Ublock Origin. No crypto bullshit to be had.
I tried floorp a while ago, but it felt a bit too clumsy and unstable. Has it gotten any better?
I haven’t had any problems with it. If you’re on Linux, there’s a fork of it called Firedragon. It’s a bit more stripped down with additional patches for privacy and security.
nothing if you’re OK with companies collecting and monitizing with your data
Nothing. The crypto, AI and VPN is opt in not opt out. So just don’t opt in. If they really bother you. You can use
brave://flags/or Group Policy to remove it.It’s one of the better chromium based browser.
Removed by mod
Damn. Why such an extreme reaction?
Not defending OP, though.
You could’ve taken this as an opportunity to list alternatives like you did in another comment, yet you chose to attack OP for asking someone to elaborate. Maybe they even considered switching, didn’t know if “some talk about the ceo” was based on facts. Maybe their question even implied that they wanted to know why AI is a bad thing for a company to focus on or maybe they just don’t know that you can install (a limited set of) extensions on Firefox Mobile (including ublock Origin).
We need to get more people using alternatives that aren’t Chrome and we both are disagreeing with the statements by the CEO and Brave’s direction with AI and Crypto. But let’s be realistic here: calling someone a coward isn’t gonna help that goal and it’s not getting our arguments across. Let’s be excellent to each other.
They already knew the facts, they even quoted them directly.
They did? I don’t see it in the post, but maybe I’m too stupid to use Lemmy :/
Yo, relax - it’s just a browser.
Can someone recommend an alternative browser for android?
I hate the Firefox ui layout on Android, I like brave for that.
All firefox forks, like Fennec and IronFox will look just like firefox.
You fan consider Cromite. It is Chromium but with a lot of privacy features. Same UI as chrome.
