China launched its most extensive war games around Taiwan on Monday to showcase Beijing’s ability to cut off the island from outside support in a conflict, testing Taipei’s resolve to defend itself and its arsenal of U.S.-made weapons.
The Eastern Theatre Command said it had deployed troops, warships, fighter jets and artillery for its “Justice Mission 2025” exercises to encircle the democratically governed island, conduct live fire and simulated strikes on land and sea targets, and drills to blockade Taiwan’s main ports.
The live-firing exercises will continue on Tuesday across a record seven zones designated by China’s Maritime Safety Administration, making the drills the largest to date by total coverage and in areas closer to Taiwan than previous exercises. The military had initially said artillery firing would be confined to five zones.
Wow, that’s convenient for your argument - what a remarkable coincidence. Some nations recognize it, others don’t, so who’s to say? It’s just too complicated and too late. 1948 was soooo long ago, unlike 1949 which is recent history. Plus the cession of Taiwan by Japan after WWII was definitely unambiguous, unlike Israel/Palestine. No issues there at all.
Do you consider the fact that the civil war never officially ended may be a mitigating factor here?
If that’s the case, why did over two decades pass until the west recognized the CPC’s state at all? Was everybody uninformed until Nixon educated us?
Yeah, you really can’t stop with the category error, can you?
The CPC isn’t a state. China is a state. It has had official international recognition as a state for centuries. The civil war did not change that. The civil war was for control of the state of China, the state that includes the province of Taiwan.
The majority of the world’s governments recognized the KMT as the legitimate government of the state of China, and some recognized the CPC as the legitimate government of the state of China. This split was largely along ideological lines - most countries would agree that the winner of a civil war is a legitimate government, but fascist anti-communists love supporting illegitimate governments like Juan Guaido or the recent Somaliland decision.
Nixon’s decision was to recognize the CPC as the legitimate government of the state of China. He did not recognize the CPC’s state because there was no such thing to recognize. Likewise, you are attempting to recognize the existence of a Taiwanese state when there is no such thing to recognize. It has never been a nation-state, it has never claimed to be a nation-state, and no government has ever recognized as a nation-state.
If you think history is convenient for my argument, perhaps what you mean is that my argument is supported by history.
I should have disengaged as soon as you spewed out that abhorrent take on Palestine, but you people are always a fountain of otherwise entertaining word salad. Re-read my comment - I never said the CPC was a state, I said the CPC’s state (i.e. the PRC). Note the possessive. All states are ultumately bullshit, even the hypercapitalist dystopia you’re slobbering over. It’s all arbitrary and the only thing that really matters is what the people on the ground want. In the case of Palestine, it’s unequivocally NOT to be a part of Israel. For the Taiwanese, >90% do NOT want to join the mainland. It’s only authoritarian imperialists like you and Likud who still choose to impose their will on others despite their most vehement refusals.
I’m going to assume you’re just trolling at this point, because this is a bald-faced lie even by tankie standards. Not only is this obviously false if we consider Taiwan a de facto state as most western countries do, several other countries even still support Taiwan’s claim over the mainland (which is absurd, but that’s another story)
How is the historically accurate take on Palestine abhorrent? The racist white supremacist empires did not and most still have not acknowledged Palestinian statehood. That’s a fact. They should be recognized as a state, but my saying so doesn’t make it true. Is that what’s abhorrent to you? That I don’t insist that morality supervene on reality? I never said Palestine should be part of Israel nor did I say Palestinians should become Israeli citizens. Like, what do you think I said that was confusing to you that you are accusing me of positions diametrically opposed to my actual position on Palestine?
If you think it’s a bald-faced lie that Taiwan has never been a nation-state, never claimed to be a nation-state, and never been recognized as a nation-state, then source your claim. Of COUSE people recognized the KMT as the legitimate government of China (not the mainland, China. Again with the category error.) The KMT laid claim to being the legitimate government of the state of China, which includes Taiwan as a province, and many nations supported this claim. Eventually most nations changed their official stance and instead recognized the CPC as the legitimate government of China (the nation-state, not just the land, but the legal entity known as the nation-state of China).
Again, if you think that’s wrong, go find me sources of either Taiwan claiming to be a nation-state that is not China or find me examples of other governments official recognizing that Taiwan is a separate nation-state from China. I can wait.