i’m doing it because I want to make the fediverse more friendly place, in hopes of making it more welcoming for new users, and the nicer place in general. But I wonder how much is just less bots.
Also, those upvotes and downvotes don’t mean shit here
This is one thing I’ve been trying to figure out, I keep hearing this a lot. What exactly is different with the upvotes and downvotes? Do they not bury comments and posts or something? Serious question just trying to be informed
While third party apps do track total up votes there is no “karma”. So unlike Reddit having 60bajilliondie points means nothing to anyone but you. Don’t even think I can see someone else’s points.
You could with certain apps… Someone shared someone else’s tally in comments on a post yesterday… Can’t remember which app it was though.
From my new user experience it seems like active comments get placed higher regardless of upvoted. i.e. comments that are still being commented on or new ones.
I like that system actually. Sometimes an unpopular opinion on Reddit would get downvoted and buried but it sparked an interesting discussion where the rest of the thread would be quality content. I like seeing some heavily downvoted comments sometimes and hiding that isn’t necessary. I feel like the user should have control over what way they get their feed and how upvotes and downvotes effect that.
There’s sort options for comment order.
What if I told you they didn’t mean shit over there either?
They certainly did to a lot of people to the point they were afraid to state their opinions so they don’t get downvoted
Edit: I just noticed your username 😂 fucking epic.
I get what you’re saying - that we don’t have a “karma” score associated with our username - but the votes do drive what people see first when they view a particular community or the “front page” so they do matter.
To an extent, but people won’t be put on timeout if they went into negative.
At least for now, maybe in the future lemmy starts to integrate instance-based plugins (or god know what) that makes more use of up/down votes
They never did, but here there no persistent score gamifying it.
Good, we don’t need them here so people aren’t afraid to state their opinions.
They didn’t really mean shit on Reddit either except to the high score obsessed and people who intended to sell their account to be used by bots and scammers.
I thought people couldn’t post anymore if they hit negative karma on Reddit. Also, some other aspects of their account are affected, so I’ve heard.
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Yeah, fuck that. I hardly ever go there anymore. Most of my time is here
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Fuck spez. Cheers 🍻
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I was unaware of that if so… I’ve only ever had 2 reddit accounts… One that’s about to be 15 years old and one that’s a year and a half old or so and neither ever had negative karma as a whole…
I’ve seen more instances of “you’re right, I’m being a dumbass” than I was prepared to.
The Old Place put a patina of grime on my soul. People are alright here.
If you tell anyone I’m alright I’ll deny it!
I’ve seen you around.
(You’re alright.)
We don’t need that sort of info just floating around, keep that to yourself buddy
I agree for the most part. However, in my effort to post content, I’ve gotten more than a few snarky or mean comments about the quality of the content. I get it if it’s not for you but just down vote. You don’t need to make the person feel bad for trying to help Lemmy grow.
I’ve had the opposite experience, my mediocre photography has won a few very kind comments!
I know it’s easier to say than do, but ignore ‘em. I got myself into some pointless argument a few days ago, even though what I should’ve done was block the individual and move on.
I stopped using upvotes/downvotes at all on Reddit. Unless you were on New, exclusively, it didn’t matter how often you got on Reddit, anything you were seeing was at least fifteen hours old. Any conversation was already done. Any up/downvotes you put in wouldn’t matter at all and probably just got ignored by the system. Anything you had to say would only appear to you, in reality it just dropped to the bottom of the sea, never again to be seen. Thousands had already spoken, somehow, and you were just walking through a snapshot of the past, already said and done.
For now, it’s much smaller here. Sometimes I find myself upvoting a post just to let the person know that somebody actually came in here and gave a fuck about what they had to say, that they aren’t talking to themselves in an empty room.
It makes sense to care a bit more, for a lot of reasons. We’ll see how long that vibe can sustain itself.
My feeling exactly. Smaller communities nurture much more healthier engagement than bigger ones
Don’t forget mods hiding your posts without a trace! There is no way from the reddit interface to tell.
Lost the link, but there’s a site that shows all the posts you made that were hidden from the rest of the sub. LOL, they even let the guy do an AMA!
I was more than a little stunned. Dozens of posts, just gone, very recently, and I had no idea. Nothing controversial, nothing crazy, and for sure nothing right-wing that might have triggered any liberal mods. I’m certain someone was following me around, reporting everything they might get traction on, hiding my posts. All very disconcerting.
Just posted about being banned for “inciting violence” for the 3rd time in 2-months. And I’m now a lunatic after 11-years without issue? Not like I can see what I was banned for, or even appeal.
I’m out. How are you folks?
Friend, yesssssss!
Here it feels like interacting with the community matters. A comment will be one of ten or a hundred, not ten thousand or hundred thousand. Comment chains between two people with different views can be discussions, instead of flamewars where one person is dogpiled for disagreeing with the thread.
Let’s all enjoy what we have here before it gets overtaken by chuds and/or AI :)
Sure, for the main subs. But the smaller subs for hobbies (for example) didn’t have this issue.
I didn’t vote much either, though. So many posts were karma farmers reposting old material.
Because it’s easier to moderate smaller communities and the average idiot hasn’t discovered these types of communities. Reddit on the other hand has reached mainstream status, so the average idiot is going to sign up there and say stupid stuff or be idiotic. Every platform goes through this.
Yup, it happened to Facebook, then reddit. Overrun by idiots.
Sadly, you’re right; Lemmy’s quality will most likely tank just as hard as Reddit when it goes mainstream.
I have my doubts that it will get as big as reddit was
Tbh, my upvote policy didn’t really change when I moved to Lemmy.
Something has to be dangerously bad for me to downvote it.
I upvote anything that seems interesting or agreeable to me.
dangerously bad
Like what? A disagreement?
Another already commented.
But the general rule of thumb I use is that if it could literally get someone seriously injured or killed, I downvote.
According to your comment history you’re okay with it as long as it’s those “libtards” being maimed or killed.
Insulting, hateful, dangerous advice
I had sexual relations with your mother.
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If you wanna call me that.
Get back in the grave, dad.
My sympathies.
It’s great that this newfangled platform isn’t filled with hate, but that’s just because not that many people know about it yet. Give it time to grow, and the hostility will be more apparent. It’s the sad reality.
But for the time being, I absolutely love this place.
I think part of it is that it seems like Lemmy has older users on average than Reddit. For teenagers and young twenty years olds raised on the internet, they seem to not really know how to talk to people in a productive way, so it’s often just toxic, nasty or empty. Obviously this isn’t all people, but internet culture kids tend to all sound and act the same.
As someone younger, I completely agree with you.
Its sad to see what the shape of the room can do to ones psyche, really the AI has taken over because it was handed what the walls look like on a silver platter and told to get to work.
Even when I argue here, it’s very civil.
Fuck you. I hate you all.
Just kidding. I like it here. Sometimes a little boring but maybe that is a good thing. I have plenty of things to do. This is a nice break and not stressful like some other sites.
As long as we keep posting content and the users continue to slowly grow there is hope.
We have the higher ground
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Perhaps for lemmy, the Orca Toasts at Noon.
But yeah, lemmy actually feels like a community. I haven’t seen too much of a “thread consensus” effect, where any differing views get buried with downvotes for not agreeing. The only mass downvoted comments I’ve seen so far were blatant racism/sexism/homophobia/other noncivil comments, and LITERAL shitposts.
TLDR: Lemmy circlejerks way less, but allows uncensored gifs of people pooping in comments
So what I’m hearing is that we need some kind of “code phrase” to identify ourselves as fediverse users in the real word.
How about “The (noun)_ beans at (time)_” as a starting point?
Almost all of my posts here get upvoted. On reddit they mostly got ignored.
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It feels like I’m talking to real humans. Not some ultra sensitive sissy all the time. It’s just so much less mentally taxing
Oh there here in places, I dip in and out of some places and I’m like eeeehhh I might not comment there for a bit lol.
