No need for regulations, just set a price floor please. Only billionaires allowed.
This. Let them eat shit.
I wonder about the people who would work on the subs, who are basically not millionaires. Would regulation, insurance and such help them have some protection and compensation?
Nah. Let the rich morons off themselves.
I am calling for even fewer regulations. Negative regulations.
Negative regulations
force billionaires on board sketchy-ass subs and send them a few miles down?
I like it.
Don’t waste tax money on this. If some rich idiots want to unalive themselves in a can to see some garbage at the bottom of the ocean - let them.
…please leave ‘unalive’ on places like tik tok.
I was using it satirically and I honestly think that’s where this word is going. I find it fascinating though - it’s absolutely meaningless but it also sounds safe and incredibly artificial. It’s full of these paradoxical features that make this word really fun. I’d invest meme points into it tbh.
It’s too late man it’s now apart of the modern language. Insert Abe Simpson “I used to be hip…” meme.
It really only is, for the most part, on places like tik tok and youtube where the word ‘dead’ is banned. And it occasionally slips out into normal society but…just…no.
Contrary to popular belief the word “dead” is not banned on tiktok or youtube. Do people really think that the censor can be tricked by a synonym a 5 yeard old could come up with?
Real argument is to protect people with trauma as seeing “dead” can be a trigger but even then it doesn’t make much sense as it’s the same word - just spelled differently. The only way this would work if we come up with new word for “death” every few months before our brains re-asocciate the synonyms but that’s absurdly impractical and impossible to implement. I do think it’s an interesting language phenomena tho and is fun to explore.
Now that I look yeah…your right. I fell for interwebs bullshit. But completely agree on you about the constant changing of words. And going going back to the original though…if you are so triggered by the word dead/death…im sorry but you just need to learn to live with that. Society cant abandon such incredibly basic words because of people like that.
I think the slippage is going to increase. It’s a full word not like “LOL”, people will say it IRL.
I’ve never heard someone say it irl yet.
Until then
like 8 years ago i worked with this girl who would fucking say hashtag. like someone would say something really crazy and she would be like “hashtag really?”
I…really hated her…
We’ve already wasted money on them.
Who do you think paid the coast guards and navies of the multiple nationals that conducted the deep sea search for Titan?
Hint: Tax payers.
I’ll be honest, I don’t think that’s a sensible approach. Yes, it’s billionaires offing themselves, sure. But regulations are quite important, in particular in sensible and critical areas like this.
If they also protect some billionaires that’s an unfortunate side effect, but overall these regulations would be very good to have. The rise of venture capitalist attitude outside of IT is only going to get worse, so the sooner we can establish rules against that the better.
Could you expand on why? Surely there must be more important areas to spend resource to regulate than protecting some rich people hobbie that only few people per year partake in. It would cost millions of dollars to regulate something like this effectively. The only argument I can think off is that it could cost less to regulate than to “save and rescue” these idiots but save and rescue is not a pro bono service for the most part either. They or their insurance will have to cover the costs of this.
I was this close to agreeing with you and then I remembered there was a kid on that sub, and now I’m thinking this was a really shitty thing to say.
I am calling for less. No billionaire should be stopped from going on an unregulated submarine.
Can we just have one law about them not taking their kids, maybe?
Deal
To be clear, it wasn’t a “tourist sub”… so maybe the first regulation should be defining exactly what that is,
Didn’t they ignore a bunch of regulatory bodies by claiming the passengers were experts and not tourists? I think throwing more laws at it won;t do much, unless they close similar loopholes.
Mission Specialists.
They were given trivial tasks to perform to justify the title. It was in bad faith and should have rung alarm bells. But I anticipate for the luxury thrill-seeker, they may be accustomed to fancy titles for their trips, and didn’t even really think about it.
I think they ignored standard testing, but this was never made mandatory
Yup. He just wants attention.
Its international waters. What regulatory body is Cameron proposing has jurisdiction to enforce any regulations?
Tickets for the tours aren’t sold from international waters, and countries can still sue someone for breaking their laws outside their territories if they want.
Dude. Do you think that “international waters/airspace” means you can just anything? Consider airlines. What happens if you suddenly drop trou and shat in the aisles? You will be restrained and arrested the moment you land. Similarly, people on ships are bound by the laws their ship is flagged with. In addition, insurance companies won’t insure your vessel if you decide to not obey any laws. That alone can destroy your business venture.
Dude. Do you think that “international waters/airspace” means you can just anything? Consider airlines. What happens if you suddenly drop trou and shat in the aisles? You will be restrained and arrested the moment you land.
Cameron is talking about binding the owners not the passengers with his proposed regulations. If I own the airplane I can totally shit on the floor and there is no law to stop me.
Similarly, people on ships are bound by the laws their ship is flagged with.
Exactly, future-risky-sub-owner could simply seek out a country that doesn’t adhere to any safety regulations. I imagine there would be many small nations which could have their “Private submarine regulation” laws bought for a relatively small sum of money.
In addition, insurance companies won’t insure your vessel if you decide to not obey any laws. That alone can destroy your business venture.
The insurance angle is a good one, but that would just mean they would have to go uninsured (or self insured) and risk losing clients that have a problem with it.
It is going to be tricky to regulate, but the expedition ship does come back to shore to resupply. They don’t leave the sub adrift on the high seas, they bring it back with them, and I imagine it’s easier to do maintenance on it on dry land, or at least in the protected waters of port.
I mean ok
But also has an air of “won’t someone please think of the billionaires”
Like, if some dipshit builds rockets and is offering trips to space for a million dollars and you tried to go to space through this clown and idk, not NASA… that’s kinda on you.
But yeah, sure. Preventable deaths, etc.
There for sure should be something to regulate the commercial aspect of it, I don’t give a goddamn if some billionaires want to build their own sub, go exploring and die themselves.
But you shouldn’t be able to charge someone or pay someone else to go with/for you unless certain minimum safety standards are met. And you know that’s what these rich asshole will do if given the opportunity
Who says this couldn’t eventually become a mass produced product though? I 100% believe it should be regulated, even if I could care less for some of the people that were on board. It still should be maintained so people don’t get sucked into unregulated BS, regardless of who gets on board.
I for one welcome more of these “catastrophic failures” if it means more billionaires will lose their lives. Worthless sociopathic assholes
The only disaster was that they didn’t manage to squeeze a few more billionaires on board.
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Only the gooberment can protect us from rich people getting killed private subs. Plz take more of my tax dollars.
I like Alien more than Aliens.
Interesting. What has ja rule say to this?
