• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    9 days ago

    Hope we can find some ways to get rid of these fuckers, they really are getting worse everywhere I’ve realized.

    I’m not in favor of eradicating them from wild areas but there’s no reason they need to be in cities.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        9 days ago

        For sure. That’s why we need to densify our cities to stop them from expanding. But that’s a separate question from whether it’s worth it to have mosquitoes in existing cities. I don’t think it is but if you have an argument for it go ahead.

        But the vast majority of urban mosquitoes are introduced species anyway.

          • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            9 days ago

            Improved human health and well-being in cities certainly couldn’t hurt. But it’s not really meant to be part of that strategy. It’s more to prevent human suffering and death from disease.

            • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              10
              ·
              edit-2
              8 days ago

              human suffering

              Right, so we should also eradicate all human predators to prevent human suffering at all, yeah?

              death from disease

              Malaria (and other diseases) can be eliminated. If you’re in a western country, when is the last time you heard of someone (in your country) having it? Did they travel recently before* the infection?

              • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                7
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                9 days ago

                We have West Nile that can kill people, and many other dangerous mosquito borne illnesses are expanding.

                Predators have other effective methods to prevent them from killing people.

                But I mean I don’t really think it would be appropriate to have lions in major cities either, so you? Unless measures could be developed to coexist and keep people safe.

                If you’re really passionate about mosquitoes existing in cities for some reason and can develop alternatives that keep people safe then go for it. But despite decades of work on this topic, we’re not there yet and killing mosquitoes remains an important part of disease control in most parts of the world. The way Malaria was eliminated from large regions in the first place was through widespread poisoning of mosquitoes, so that example really doesn’t help your case.

                • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  8 days ago

                  killing mosquitoes remains an important part of disease control in most parts of the world.

                  Which was done without fully studying the ecological impacts. There are studies coming out now showing there are many impacts from doing this.

                  Edit:

                  can develop alternatives that keep people safe then go for it.

                  Permethrin, diethyltoluamide, citronella, bug zappers and mosquito nets already exist and can help you control their presence both on your person and in a localised area.