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      Fatah made a deal with Israel and it stuck to it. Fatah didn’t “collaborate”, it tried to achieve peace and a Palestinian state. It is the only player in the conflict that plays within the parameters set out by the UN.

      Fatah is a truly tragic organization in this whole drama. Before you accuse Fatah of anything, you must first condemn Israel and the international community for betraying the shit out of them.

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        Israel didn’t respect the Oslo accords so PA shouldn’t keep respecting it either.

        I condemn Israel first, the Arab traitors and western countries Israel supporters seconds and the occupation collaborators the PA last.

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          Easy to pontificate to the Palestinians what they should or shouldn’t do.

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            Support for Palestinian factions: support for Hamas declines by 4-points while support for Fatah remains unchanged. The decline in support for Hamas came from the West Bank. Support for Fatah is higher in the Gaza Strip than in the West Bank and support for Hamas is also higher in the Gaza Strip than in the West Bank. In both areas, support for Hamas is higher than the support for Fatah.

            Support for Palestinian factions: support for Hamas declines by 4-points while support for Fatah remains unchanged. The decline in support for Hamas came from the West Bank. Support for Fatah is higher in the Gaza Strip than in the West Bank and support for Hamas is also higher in the Gaza Strip than in the West Bank. In both areas, support for Hamas is higher than the support for Fatah.

            Support for Palestinian leaders: If presidential elections were held between three candidates, Marwan Barghouti of Fatah, Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah, and Khalid Mishal of Hamas, Barghouti would receive 50% of the vote, followed by Khalid Mishal and Abbas.

            The release of Marwan Barghouti is supported by Hamas but not by the Palestinian Authority

            https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-palestinian-authority-oppose-marwan-barghouti-release-negotiations#%3A~%3Atext=The+source+added+that+senior%2Cof+PA+President+Mahmoud+Abbas.

            Demand for the resignation of president Abbas: About 1 in 5 Palestinians are satisfied with the performance of **President Abbas **and 81% want him to resign.

            When asked whether it supports or opposes the disarmament of Hamas in the Gaza Strip in order to stop the war on the Gaza Strip, an overwhelming majority (85% in the West Bank and 64% in the Gaza Strip) said it is opposed to that; only 18% support it.

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              Marwan Barghouti is a member of Fatah.

              The JCPA that you cite is a conservative Israeli think tank…

              Edit: You changed the citation.

              Sure Abbas doesn’t want him out, but Fatah is not Abbas and Abbas is not Fatah. Fatah is a mass organization.

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                Barghouti is one of the few good people left in Fatah and the PA refuse to release him. Fatah abandoned him . I also updated my link with a pro Palestine source instead. The JCPA still a proof that Israel use the PA while insulting it at the same time . Collaborators like Abass are not respected neither by Palestinians and neither by Israeli

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                  I think we are not too divergent in our preferences here. We both support Barghouti. Abbas is a 90 year old mummy, one foot in the grave. Not that relevant much longer.

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                    We both support Barghouti

                    And Fatah do not support his release while Hamas does

                    Abbas is a 90 year old mummy, one foot in the grave. Not that relevant much longer.

                    He is going to be either replaced by another Puppet or Israel may decide to officially annexing the West Bank and dissolving the Palestinian Authority altogether

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        The Qatari money was used for infrastructure projects. Israel as the occupying force it the one who allow money to go even to the west bank of the PA yet weirdly the rhetoric is only used to against Hamas . Hamas rely of smuggling for it’s military wing and arms.

        How can you convince anybody that Hamas works for Israel against the “good” Palestinian authority who is collaborating for Israeli security while not protecting a single Palestinian from the settlers?