Canada post should not ever be a corporation of any kind.
It should be a service, like healthcare, without any requirement or expectation of ever turning a profit.
All revenue would do is help offset some of the cost.
True. Very True. We should both be buying our shit back that we sold to private industry and stop seeing services as a “for profit business”. It’s infrastructure. Make the phone a utility again as well. The current path is surrounded by tricky greed fog is and out of control.
Nationalize internet service and put Canada Post in charge. It’s about making sure all Canadians can communicate effectively and affordably. Penalize private delivery services that don’t meet the labour standards (and as private citizens refuse to use them, nickel and dime everything you can out of them, send shit back not delivered by Canada Post and refuse to pay for the return - just refuse delivery), expose all private holdings of delivery services stock, assets, relatives with equity positions, etc. of anyone in government who therefore have a conflict of interest and charge them a fee equivalent to all profits to be made if they vote against Canada post employees. It’s a service, not a business. We don’t expect the military to turn a profit.
You’re wrong
We do expect the military to turn a profit. Just not a profit for you.
Well I want all my mail to be delivered by Canada Post. But sellers choose otherwise so blame sellers not me.
So, the question I have is, how can we help the postal workers and encourage the government to actually make Canada Post work?
At this point, by writing letters to our MPs, expressing clearly what we want to see happen and what we don’t. For example that we want to see Section 107 gone and Canada Post funded. Slightly further into the future, by following the NDP leadership election and voting in it so we can get a stronger alternative during the next federal election, one that will support Canada Post’s workers.
I know that the fed NDP and the BCNDP are not the same party, but seeing the betrayal union workers are facing in BC under an NDP government is really shaking any sort of hope I’ve had for a party that truly gives any fucks about the people. I’ll continue to support federally but just feel so hesitant and pessimistic about it all.
It’s why participating in shaping parties before elections is important. David Eby is a lawyer. Currently there’s a union guy running for a federal NDP leather. Pessimism is healthy and warranted. It’s why we should act when there’s opportunity for improvment.
The BC NDP has been taken over by corporate toadies. It’s NDP in name only.
https://sparksolidarity.ca/2024/10/21/bc-ndp-leadership-controversy/
The federal party? We’ll have to wait and see.
Thanks. I wasn’t paying close enough attention when all of that with Appadurai happened, but I’m much more attentive now. That’s a good recap.
What I don’t understand is, if a crown corporation is losing billions of dollars, someone is not doing their job. Roll some heads, starting with Doug Ettinger, President and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Canada Post,
While I agree Canada post is losing lots of money you also got to keep in mind that they’re a government service not intended to make a profit.
Our tax dollars fund their operation, same goes with any other service provided by the government, only in a few circumstances where earning a profit makes sense like… a government funded bakery? Couldn’t think of a better example.
What evidence do you have that Canada Post’s CEO is the main problem? I mean you admit that Canada Post is owned by the government, then blame the CEO - who’s boss is the same government - for all the problems.
This is on the feds and no one else. Too many of our politicians are in bed with investment banks and private equity, setting themselves up for a new job when they leave politics. It is the feds you should be blaming.
Ettinger sits on the board of directors of Purolator. That’s a massive conflict of interest at the very least.
How?
Canada Post is the majority shareholder of Purolator.
Canada post started losing money as soon as he came into the picture
Look up some clips of what the striking workers are saying and all of them are talking shit about this ceo
Ok but you just asked for evidence and then proceeded to espouse your point of view with as much certainty as OP and not a shred of evidence. I’m certainly cynical about politicians and their motives but you’re not coming across as anything other than speed running hypocrisy in a single post.
The evidence I have is that Canada Post is a Crown corporation, owned and operated by the Government of Canada. Blaming any employee - whether a CEO, CFO or mail carrier - for the mess it is in makes zero sense.
Well I guess that clinches it then.
You must work in the legal system or law enforcement if you are operating with such an iron clad definition of the concept of “evidence”.
Glad we have such critical thinkers in the army of truth.
Who would you propose? Do you think Mark Carney is sitting there and makes every day decision s at Canada Post?
How about your MP? I mean that’s what they’re there for. Anything to do with Canada Post’s corporate plan or operations is taken care of by the Minister of Public Services and Procurement.
Like yes,
But my MP, or any number of MPs aren’t responsible for the day to day operations is my point…
I ultimately agree with you that Canada Post shouldn’t be a business.
But for everyone saying it is, then the business leaders are responsible for its failure. Which to me means it should be under MORR control of the federal government.
Canada post missed the bus when they didn’t find a way to pivot and use their infrastructure to create a delivery system for Internet packages. Now they have to try play catch up.
Why aren’t they creating delivery services for all goods in every city that they have infrastructure in? Using their employees as delivery drivers or bicycle delivery people. Or even contracting to private business and large corporations to operate mail rooms and internal delivery systems. Why is the federal government allowing someone like Amazon to recently create their own delivery services. Why not nationalize delivery services? There are so many options yet they stay stuck.
If Can post wants to exist they need to find a new way. Letter mail isn’t gonna cut it.
They own Purolator:
Canada Post owns 91 percent of Purolator, a major player in the domestic parcel market. Over the past four years, Purolator’s revenues have averaged approximately $2.5 billion, indicating that Canada Post is far from broke. If Canada Post held exclusive rights to parcel delivery—as it does for letters—it would easily break even.
As the article describes: there are a bunch of gig work companies whose costs are significantly lower than Canada Posts. Straight competition won’t work.
Why not nationalize delivery services?
That would require an act of Parliament. Our last dozen or so governments have been pro-business, so that seems unlikely. But we can dream.
You could force exploitive gig work platforms to meet high labour standards, and even require unionisation of the gig workers to provide basic employment protections. That would help in general because even several government departments use contracted workers to gearound basic labour standards right now.
Agreed. Society would benefit from stronger protections for workers. That is (almost) entirely out of the hands of Canada Post, however. That requires legislation from Parliament.
there are a bunch of gig work companies whose costs are significantly lower than Canada Posts.
Costs that are lowered by underpaying their workers. Gig work companies typically treat workers as disposable/replacable contractors doing piecework, not salaried employees who deserve proper benefits and some measure of job security.
Canada post missed the bus when they didn’t find a way to pivot and use their infrastructure to create a delivery system for Internet packages. Now they have to try play catch up.
Canada Post exists as a Crown Corporation under a specific mandate; I don’t think they could just pivot to become an internet service provider on their own
