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    By their own logic doesn’t exempting themselves mean they want to abuse children?

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      Ok listen. That is the way governments want you to think in order to get away with erasing your right to privacy. It’s the old “I have nothing to hide” argument.

      But here’s the thing. You have a butthole. I have a butthole. Everyone in the planet has a butthole. Having a butthole is nothing to be ashamed of, it is not a crime to have a butthole. No one will prosecute you for having a butthole. But that doesn’t mean it is ok for the government to see everyone’s butthole. That’s your right to privacy.

      If you want to protect children, you turn to social scientists to understand the problems and identify the ways in which to catch and prosecute offenders. Weaponizing surveillance on everyone in order to catch a very tiny percentage of population who might be committing a crime is hurting everyone.

      Privacy is not about empowering pedos, it is about protecting everyone’s rights. Erode one right and you erode all rights. Once the system is in place, then political surveillance to destroy democracy and install fascism is what follows.

      Ironically, the global fascism is currently run by pedophiles.

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      No. They want to protect themselves from… Their own security forces.

      Yeah, checks out. Our little parlamentarians are all big pedos (at least the ones pushing for this shit).

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      It’s at least beginning to be mentioned in the national media where I live, and people are generally opposed. Unfortunately the current government seems to completely ignore the voice of the people.

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    I have a question, if I, an american, have an account with tuta mail, and this bs passes and is actually enforced, tuta would not be required to install the state spyware on my device as I’m not an EU citizen nor someone who resides in the EU, correct?

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      Why not if American companies have to follow American law internationally even if it goes against local law, why doesn’t the other way apply.

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      Probably depends how the companies responsible for opening backdoors in their apps and services would handle it. Would they use the same backdoors that they give access to authorities in other countries or will they create a super specific backdoor just for EU.

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    One correction, they don’t want to combat, they want to identify the sources so politicians can use it, because Epstein island is gone and they need new island.

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      It looks like your talking about CSAM! Please send details for your private event to 123 MPs house address. Should you fail to do so you will be arrested on CSAM charges.

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    EU will be where the US is soon if they don’t stop their own corrupt politicians and oligarch overreach

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    Definitely continue the fight, but in the meantime, migrate to something like DeltaChat.

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        I’ve run a matrix server with around 250 local users. The schema Matrix uses is fundementally flawed that leads to excessive resource usage, and the DB is very easy to corrupt. Plus, the encryption key management sucks in comparison to DeltaChat and SimpleX.

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          Very much agree with the encryption key management. My friend group and I stopped using Matrix because the getting encryption right between all of our devices proved frustrating, especially if a reinstall or phone upgrade comes up.

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        Federated servers, Multiple device access without the phone app being open, Decades old tried and true backend protocol that would be a problem to ban.

        Also https://webxdc.org/

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          Well I’m not the most technical but on SimpleX you have no user ID’s, routing through TOR and running your own servers among many other features (like the one that adds a radom delay to measages)

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            You effectively have no user id’s with chatmail relays with DeltaChat. Routing of messages uses the default TCP/IP stack and so you can just use TOR if you want to. Mentioning a chat systems ability to use TOR, as if that should be a part of the chat program rather than the system it self seems strange to me.

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              I see, I’ll keep this DeltaChat in mind. So far I’ve been really enjoying SimpleX, It’s one of my favorite apps