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    The recent Android side loading debacle was unexpected and unwanted. However, I hope to see more Linux phone development. It won’t all be brilliant, but that’s evolution.

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    De-junked url: https://www.yankodesign.com/2025/09/23/this-linux-phone-with-android-app-support-has-three-kill-switches-for-complete-privacy/

    This is the “Furi” phone that runs Debian underneath. As I remember it was around $550 for a phone with no headphone jack, no SD slot, and the usual sealed battery (no idea about replacements but maybe that info is somewhere). There was another thread about it a few days ago.

    I’m not that excited but maybe others here will be.

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      It says on the article it can take SD cards up to 1tb, and according to a reddit comment from someone who daily drives one, it has a removable back panel and battery.

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      Actually they have a video on yet about a removable battery which is also waterproof, maybe the new model though.

      I never heard about this phone before, but its android container seems very well engineered. I wonder how banking apps and android auto behave

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    “This Linux phone”

    Stupid ass clickbait title.

    It’s the Furi Labs FLX1s (which seems to be a downgrade of the FLX1)

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    why? why is this thing being posted so much everywhere?

    linux phone

    actually halium

    hardware kill switches

    I guess I just can’t see the utility vs leaving the phone at home since I don’t arrange 3AM deals by the docks

    android app support

    all we see is a shaky recording of a screen that looks like some gui to control waydroid settings

    we have actual hardware now that works really well, has almost mainline linux kernel support, does not rely on oem hacks and proprietary blobs on top of android kernels to be useful, and is available now for $50 second hand in good condition

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        I always wondered why anyone would choose to use that instead of Signal and GrapheneOS. I mean, removing cameras and microphones is a great tactic, but why use some shady software instead of something that was proven to work many times? Even if that service was authentic, how long would it take for law enforcement to learn about it, seize the servers and collect metadata? There must be people who are competent in tech and also happen to be cartel members.

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            I’ve read somewhere that the massive explosion in popularity happened in 2020 when someone stole and cloned the PCs that were used to install the ROMs on Android phones. By then GrapheneOS head dev’s conflict with CopperheadOS team was very widely publicized and GrapheneOS’s security debate was impossible to miss.

            Anyway, here’s a phone and a messaging app that will only be provided to you and other criminals, it is very secure

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      Do you mean postmarketOS compatible phones? Because I don’t see what else you could be talking about in regards to phone hardware with mainline Linux.

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        Yes, I mean the 2018 era SDM845 bunch of phones. They mostly work. While postmarketOS is the community that made linux on phones possible, it is not the only thing that you can run on these, there is actual choice. I personally liked Mobian very much.

        Making linux phones more widely adopted will require wider community interest and halium is just not the way forward.

        Edit: screenshot to illustrate my point, my OnePlus 6T running NixOS in UEFI mode (based on this writeup by /u/chayleaf@lemmy.ml:

        spoiler

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          thanks for the linked writeup, always new stuff to learn.

          I’m on 6T and mobian, how’s your luck with taming cameras?

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            haha, none at all! I’ve spent like 6 months trying to boot normal NixOS instead of mobile-nixos, got it booting last week, almost nothing works, currently I’m trying to build a newer kernel and maybe fix sound.

            I quite like the boot chain that I achieved (bootloader -> tianocore EDK II UEFI from Renegade Project -> normal systemd-boot) and I also installed the whole thing via USB by mounting disks directly.

            On Mobian I think at least one camera did work but was purple all over, never actually tested the hardware on android.

            All mobile distributions ship without kernel modules that I need, compiling manually on every update is not really sustainable, this is the reason why my setup is so convoluted.

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    them dudes should allow us paupers to get at the “furyos” with our shitty $50 phones. or at least put the evidently complete product it in the hands of someone who ran linux phones (i.e. experience with mobian, pmOS, phosh, etc) instead of confused youtubers swiping the same two screens left/right not undestanding dick about the issues.

    I am not spending a multiple of the total of all my hardware combined in order to find out it has the same performance and issues my oneplus 6t with mobian has.

    y’all with the graphenes and co., respectfully, you don’t understand what you’re talking about.

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    I’ll have to check what’s with the security stuff … That many apps now require to be signed and bootloader locked.

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      Signature is the only required afaik, alternative stores have been guaranteed to continue to work. Do they want to check bootloader too?

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        Yes, some do. And if they detect root, they don’t work…i recall Authy was problematic like this lately.

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          Ok but that’s specific to some apps requirements, Google won’t require it for all apps like they’ll do with signature

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      Yes , it’s got decent hardware, but they should cut the price off in half

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        While I agree with that, they don’t have the luxury of scale of mass production, so it’s not possible for them (yet hopefully)

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          I know prices may be higher but check this: https://www.techwalls.com/production-costs-of-smartphones

          If you go to china and go to a factory they will show you the menu where you can choose the components from, you just give them the 3d cad file of the desired form factor. And prices are the one I linked. You have to customize android, I know, and spend on marketing, but that’s it

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            Hmm fair enough, maybe the more special features are the main reason it is so pricey, like the physical modem switches? Just a guess.

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              Probably yes, but iirc the pine phone has them too and it’s 150€

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        Big companies sell their expensive phones for cheap because they’ll get their money selling your data and showing you ads. A phone like this won’t get any money out of you other than the money you give when buying the phone. So it makes sense that it’s pricey.

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          “Big companies sell their high end phones for cheap”

          What crack rock are you sleeping under? I can buy a street legal used vehicle for less than the “latest and greatest” samsung or Apple phone.

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            The truth is, if it wasn’t for data collection, these phones would be more expensive than this. So yeah, they are cheap compared to their price if companies didn’t collect user data.

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              I know there’s other costs associated (like the engineering and advertising) , but I happen to know with the iPhone 13 pro they were making about $400 per device. I doubt those margins have shrunk much, if at all, since then.

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        The response time looks really slow in the video. Not sure I’ve ever seen a loading logo for the settings menu before.