They don’t have a social media service, right? So where do they get the data to train their AI models ? Surely they need a lot, right? It would be nice if the public knew who cooperates with them (other than governments) and just boycott their services, or at least pressure them.

If company X doesn’t offer your data to governments officials, but offers them to Palantir which makes a profile of you that it offer to the same officials, isn’t that even worse ?

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    I used to run in consulting circles, long enough time around execs and you start to see just how well the good ol boy clubs, and know-a-guy chains can make business deals between firms. Once you get the ball rolling on a project as a large enough entity, it doesn’t take much to consult the digital equivalent of their rolodex to find vendor upon vendor for this part, this data broker, etc.

    Cheaper in bulk too.

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    They don’t. They sell tools to governments and companies, that the clients use with their own data, that they already have. Palantir doesn’t do the spying or data harvesting, and they don’t have any data of their own, they develop and sell tools that clients use with whatever data the clients have.

    They make the spy tools, they are not doing the spying.

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    They buy it from data brokers. Some governments are limited on what they can store where companies can store whatever they want as long as it is “legitimate interest”

    It is worse because if you gpdr Facebook they only have to remove you from their data sets not their partners who scalp the Facebook datasets.

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    Their clients feed them with data. Given that Peter Thiel is behind Palantir, you can also pretty much count on all the big social media companies cooperating with them.

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      They also just steal data from their clients. At least one US military branch is suing them over doing exactly that during one of their contracts.

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    they buy it from data brokers, from the platforms, from other companies, probably from governments.

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    Hear this crazy thought:

    be as anonymous as you can and don’t share your personal data over the internet.

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      Even if you never went online, heaps of data about you is collected and sold.

      • ALPRs collect and sell your car’s movement and location data.
      • Stores you shop at collect identity data and share your purchases and consumer behaviors, even when you pay cash.
      • Banks and financial institutions share information about your assets, financial holdings, purchases, and electronic transactions.
      • Governments mandate that all sorts of information about you is public.

      And if you are online, the “be as anonymous as you can and don’t share your personal data over the internet.” statement makes it sound easy, which is far from true. It’s a constant game of whack-a-mole where one needs incredibly disciplined to compartmentalize and segregate login sessions across browsers and devices. If one isn’t technically skilled and constantly vigilant, it’s a losing battle. That’s why awareness and campaigns that support privacy focused regulation are important.

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        As I said “as anonymous as you CAN”, which is better than posting the photos of your birthday on Instagram or whatever people do these days.