My setup on GrapheneOS with all the exploit protections on except some off for apps with compatibility issues. Thoughts?

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    chrome could be firefox. much better, and no effort at all to switch.

    bonus for using ublock origin and never seeing ads again.

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      Firefox is not secure on mobile, Vanadium is a great browser made by the GrapheneOS devs

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          People in the comments already have “Avoid Gecko-based browsers like Firefox as they’re currently much more vulnerable to exploitation and inherently add a huge amount of attack surface. Gecko doesn’t have a WebView implementation (GeckoView is not a WebView implementation), so it has to be used alongside the Chromium-based WebView rather than instead of Chromium, which means having the remote attack surface of two separate browser engines instead of only one. Firefox / Gecko also bypass or cripple a fair bit of the upstream and GrapheneOS hardening work for apps. Worst of all, Firefox does not have internal sandboxing on Android.”

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        Oh, i didn’t know it was a fork. I’d take adblock over it though, just for the fact it blocks rogue malicious javascript along with ads.

        I generally recommend Firefox for people that don’t use it, but there are more secure forks too if that’s your jam.

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          I mean Gecko based browsers are actively recommended against on mobile. Chromium based browsers are recommended. Also I use mullvadVPN DNS based ad blocking, and I also have Brave that has built in ad blocking. Do yourself a favor and ditch adblock in favor of Ublock origin

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              I haven’t really dived into this but I’m pretty sure GOS dev are one of the groups to recommend against it

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    Are those green mini icons an indication of a PWA shortcut?

    I use the app Hermit to run isolated websites, usually as PWAs. It’s replaced quite a few apps, but I’ve noticed that many companies are intentionally making their web experience shit so they force you to use invasive apps.

    Anyway, it can create home icons for those sites, and they run separately (i.e. in your task switcher), so it works better than browser shortcuts.

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    KeePassDX, nice choice! I really wish I could have DX or XC on both phone and desktop. Love both but would prefer to donate to one. Wallet is unhappy but I really try to donate to all FOSS apps I use…

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      Yeah keepass the goat! I use mainly proton and keepass for when I’m more paranoid

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          Do you have a backup? I recently lost my crypto due to my KeePassDX getting deleted accidentally (I saved the seed there) :(

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              Oh shit… Damn. sorry that happened to you :(

              I do back it up with the rest of my stuff to an external hard drive, but that’s… Like once in a year so could be better.

              I have my keepass database file in my cloud that i use to sync it between phone and PC. I create a backup of all of my files on my PC + cloud folder once a year to an external hard drive. Better than nothing but probably would be better to do this more frequently 😄

              I also empty my phone from time to time and move everything I want to keep to my PC (like photos).

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                BTW I find SimpleX is great for syncing between your phone and PC. I used it with multiple computers/profiles on GOS and just created an incognito group without history and with disappearing message and that’s how I moved stuff like addresses and passwords to my PC. The app is also great for communication ofc

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                  Nice tip, thanks! still haven’t given simpleX a try. Mostly because it was hard enough to get family and friends to move to signal :)

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                  Note is that I don’t link my SimpleX to my PC but create separate profiles

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                Wait isn’t that defeating the purpose of KeePass? I strictly use it as a local password manager (no cloud backups and such), since I thought that was the main spelling point

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                  You can of course. I think the selling point is that you control it and it’s a single file that you can decide where you’ll keep it, how you access it, and what app you use to interact with it.

                  I can copy, delete, move it all without needing a service for it. Can modify it offline and everything!

                  I don’t host the file on a password manager dedicated cloud, it’s my own cloud space with other files I have there as well. So the file is just in my cloud space, with other files, and i have a synced folder on my phone + pc and just access that cloud folder with the file from keepassXC on my PC and keepassDX on my phone :)

                  For me keepass offered a single databae file that I can decide where and how I keep it. Also works offline because the cloud syncs folders and even without internet a version exists on my phones cloud folder (until it gets synced again with internet).

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                  Or is the database file encrypted with a password? If not you might want to use something like VeraCrypt to encrypt and password protect the database files on the cloud

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              Nobody seems to talk about the OG pen and paper password manager!

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      Cromite, but I have switched to brave since, it has better fingerprinting protection, more updates, better security and better sandboxing and isolation. At least that’s what Deepseek R1 with websearch has to say

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      In NanoGPT You also got TEE (Trusted Execution Environment) models which are more private/secure from my understanding. From GPT-OSS 120B TEE:

      “TEE‑based AI models run their inference or training inside a Trusted Execution Environment (TEE), a hardware‑secured enclave that isolates code and data from the rest of the system. This provides data confidentiality, protects the model’s IP, enables cryptographic attestation of the exact model version, and satisfies regulatory privacy requirements, making AI services trustworthy and suitable for secure multi‑party or decentralized applications.” One downside is that they are usually pretty expensive to run

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      NanoGPT is more “no-logs” from what I understand buttt you can pay in XMR and have a dedicated “account” (you get a sign in link to keep safe) and run it under tor

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    If anyone Is wondering, this setup was based mainly on PrivacyGuides

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      I’m thinking if I need to use WhatsApp again I’ll try to download it, connect to WhatsApp web on my laptop and then delete it from my phone. Idk if it’ll work but it’s worth a shot

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          I am, it’s just that for some of my PWAs, they are unusable/buggy/slow on Vanadium. And lol I’m going around in circles. Do I reinstall Cromite now haha?

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      If you don’t mind hardening firefox on android. You can try Firefox with uBlock. It give some small advantage compared to Brave like more filters list from uBlock, the element picker thing, and no brave, etc. The performance can be questionable though.

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          Yes it is true. It have insecure sandbox but in your case it seem like you still use vanadium, if you only use Firefox for known website for the webapp. The insecure sandbox is not that big of a deal anymore. Still from a pure security point, Firefox is not great.

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            I think overall I have an edge with Brave, since I use it for NanoGPT webapp which I need to be fast or I’ll kys because it was already slow AF on Vanadium so I assume on FF it will be a lot worse

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      It would have been helpful to explain why, whether that’s privacy, ethical, or political concerns.

      But maybe the use of “🤣” says it all

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          I would be in the loop, but not necessarily OP. I am calling out OC to defend their suggestion with more than a simple accusation.

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            As a looped in person. Do you think I should stick to Proton for less hassle (migration) or is moving to Tuta for example the right move currently?

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              My take is that Proton CEO Andy Yen’s pro-Trump comments were born out of naïvety, not the same mindset that plagues tech CEOs in the US. Combining that with Proton’s benign actions since then, I think it’s a good time to diversify, become familiar with alternatives like Tuta as you say, and make a backup plan should they enshittify, but don’t rush to jump ship now.

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            You are indeed correct, I’m not the type currently to stay up to date on news

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            What you mean? You do realise most of us degoogle to get away from American grasp on technology, what’s the purpose of switching to Proton if there’s services even more independent?

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              The problem is I have been using proton for years and I have 385 entries so switching to say Tuta would be a drag (unless there is an option to migrate, I haven’t checked) Proton IIRC is also the cheaper of the two. Or would you say I should suck it up and make the switch?

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                After thinking some more this mindset is not good at all. If everyone becomes complacent due to habit and convenience that would be bad

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                  I’m not sure, does managing two email accounts would be difficult for you? It wouldn’t be too bad having one extra, having some accounts on a different mail might work for you, if one gets hacked you don’t lose access to everything right away. Also you don’t have to migrate all the entries right away, you can always just make new accounts on a new email provider, and if you do use password expiry in your pw manager you can migrate emails right then

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          And they recently were caught in the “accidental” suspension of the accounts of two journalists.

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            There has been enough information released to essentially debunk the connotation you are implying.

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              Did the CEO tweet in support to Trump administration? Yes he did!

              Did two journalists have their accounts suspended after external pressure? Yes they did!

              Debunk this, fanboy!

              As I have said already to another of yours, time will tell if I was too cautious or you were a fool.

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                I didn’t say anything about the Trump tweet. I only mentioned the journalist comment, which there is more information an nuance to it than you allow for.

                But you assume because I say one thing I must be your enemy. You call me names. You refer to me as a group instead of a person.

                So clearly you are an island to yourself. I hope your relationships in real life are far more fruitful.

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      I mean isn’t proton recommended on privacy guides? Do you think they need to update it?

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          What’s wrong with brave? I didn’t like the crypto feature but I got the impression that it’s a good privacy browser for people that need syncing

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            Do your own research, this is the most useful thing I can tell you and it applies to anything.

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              Yes that is correct, I just wanted to hear what people on Lemmy have to say

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                Brave, like Proton, has a lot of fanboys (assuming they aren’t bots) that blatantly ignore key informations about the companies of said products.

                In this kind of scenario resorting to your own independent search is the only thing you can do.