i feel so awful for antizionist jews who are facing a rising tide of shit like “you know jews, always doing genocide”
israel is fueling antisemitism and calling anyone who resists it antisemites. this genocide has almost nothing to do with judaism and jewish identity and everything to do with colonialism and european identity.
israel is fueling antisemitism and calling anyone who resists it antisemites
One of the big effects of this is that it really waters down the term antisemite. If someone gets called an antisemite for saying Israel is committing a genocide, then an actual bona-fide antisemite gets antisemitic, the former person will be biased towards believing the label is unjustified on them as well
i’ve also seen some people come to hate all jews because israel’s rhetoric has led them to the conclusion that antisemitism must be a positive thing. it’s such a fuckin’ nightmare
it’s exhausting speaking out against genocide while at the same time defending yourself from accusations of being pro genocide. best i can do is best i can do to live my life in a manner that inhibits racists from their aims
Israel is basically Satan shaped into a state, but let’s not forget that they could’ve never done what they’ve done throughout the years without the complete support from their Western peers back home. In this case, the West’s actual hatred of the Jews is getting mixed with the desire for accountability from the 3 righteous folks over there, and Israel is being “scapegoated” because the Zionist project, just like the other Western colonialist projects, is soon to collapse and the powers that be no longer find it a good investment. And I said scapegoated not because Israel is not guilty but because it’s a shared crime against humanity, and the West is doing a Pontius Pilates and washing the blood off their hands, pretending to be innocent because accountability is not a known Western trait and it would be hard/impossible to push a narrative that hurts people’s feefees. Remember that this thorn on humanity’s side was not just created by the British and the French over a century ago, but that even some months ago British ships were protecting Israel against retaliatory drone strikes after the latter suddenly bombed Iran with the help of the Americans (which is the height of Western civilization, the other Franco-British child, the unmasked soul of the West and the final destination for every nation that shares its ethos)…
they are. israelis are European colonials whose claim to the Levant is tied to a diasporatic exodus during the late roman empire. Palestinians are indigenous to the Levant, just like the israeli colonists’ ancestors from 1200 years ago. however, the Jews that spent their time in Europe, the Ashkenazi, that dominate israeli settler politics have been disconnected from the Levant for so long and integrated into European society so deeply as a means of survival that their claims to be the rightful heirs to the Levant no longer make sense without needing to erase the history of the Palestinians, many of whom themselves maintain Jewish cultural traditions the Ashkenazi lost.
so they erase the Palestinians and their stories, just like the Europeans they’ve been around for the last couple millennia did to them. if you truly believe that israelis are from the near east, plain and simple, then there are significant chunks of your understanding of history that are either missing or are outright russian/German/israeli fabrications. i suggest you spend some time reading about the history of my people over the last 200 years to understand that Zionism and the current israeli state are a reactionary response to antisemitic violence in Europe in the late 1800s, and that Zionism is not a universal approach to Jewish identity with the other response to that violence being a philosophy known as doikayt. while you’re reading, too, focus on non European perspectives on what Palestinians call the Nakba, or tragedy. It’s the loss of their ancestral homelands that they’ve been on for 20k years to Europeans claiming to be from there.
but if you don’t, then please take the following truth with you: the Likud is a white supremecist European colonial project, just like the united states and manifest destiny, or russia’s subjugation of minority peoples across their Asian territory.
That’s a massive post that could have been more effectively summed up as “Yes Im that racist and I know fuckall about history”
Factually the majority of Israelis are from Middle Eastern nations whose relatives were expelled when Israel was created so it is factually inaccurate to suggest that Israelis are Europeans when the above covers roughly 55% of the population.
Some Palestinians might have ancestry with the original native groups but we would have noway of being able to determine this. We factually do know that there was significant Arab migration into the area at various points and the modern population is related to these Arabs. To be clear there is no “native” population to the Levant that can be proven in any way right now.
While I agree Likhud is racist and largely counterproductive you have so many overtly factual errors in addition to the overt racism it is difficult for me to take you serious at all.
David Ben Gurion 1948 - 1953. Born in Poland
Moshe Sharett 1953-1955. Born in the Russian Empire (modern day Ukraine)
David Ben Gurion 1955 - 1963. Born in Poland
Levi Eshkol 1963 - 1969. Born in Russian Empire (modern day Ukraine)
Yigal Allon 1969 (interim PM). Born in Palestine. Father born in Belarus. Maternal grandfather born in Ukraine.
Golda Meir 1969 - 1974. Born in Russia.
Yitzhak Rabin - 1992 - 1995. Born in Palestine. Father born in Ukraine. Mother born in Belarus.
Shimon Peres - 1995 - 1996. Born in Poland.
Benjamin Netanyahu 1996 - 1999. Born in Israel. Father born in Poland. Mother born in Palestine, but was a US citizen. Parents migrated from Lithuania to the US
Ehud Barak 1999 - 2001 . Born in Palestine. Mother born in Poland. Father born in Lithuania.
Ariel Sharon 2001 - 2006. Born in Palestine. Parents born in Russia.
Ehud Olmert 2006 - 2009. Born in Palestine. Parents born in Ukraine and Russia.
Benjamin Netanyahu - 2009 - 2021
Naftali Bennett 2021 - 2022. Born in Israel. Parents from the US
Yair Lapid 2022. Born in Israel. Father born in Yugaslovia. Mother born in Israel. Maternal grandfather born in Transylvania.
Benjamin Netanyahu 2022 - present
It is true that much of the Israeli population is middle eastern. However the political of Israel has been European from it’s founding until today.
Most Jewish people did not have last names they got them after the migration into Eastern Europe. Many have European last names due to the history of European antisemitism. The fact that you bring this up as something these people chose, rather than it being forced on them as was typically the case, really highlights how poor your understanding isof the history of Jews in Europe.
No one is paying me I just speak out against overt racism when I see it. You are racist, bad at math and have a shit grasp on history. Do you want a ladder to get out if that hole you keep digging? I’d be perfectly fine with you self creating an oubliette.
i feel so awful for antizionist jews who are facing a rising tide of shit like “you know jews, always doing genocide”
israel is fueling antisemitism and calling anyone who resists it antisemites. this genocide has almost nothing to do with judaism and jewish identity and everything to do with colonialism and european identity.
One of the big effects of this is that it really waters down the term antisemite. If someone gets called an antisemite for saying Israel is committing a genocide, then an actual bona-fide antisemite gets antisemitic, the former person will be biased towards believing the label is unjustified on them as well
i’ve also seen some people come to hate all jews because israel’s rhetoric has led them to the conclusion that antisemitism must be a positive thing. it’s such a fuckin’ nightmare
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I haven’t seen almost anyone saying “you know Jews, always doing genocide”.
It’s pretty consistently “you know Israel, always doing genocide”.
lucky you. it’s a little different for me being amongst those antizionist jews i was mentioning. i run into that shit at least once a week
Literally had a conversation with an antisemite today who blames all Jews for Israel’s actions
it’s exhausting speaking out against genocide while at the same time defending yourself from accusations of being pro genocide. best i can do is best i can do to live my life in a manner that inhibits racists from their aims
Even if you don’t think it’s happening already though, obviously it’s going to head that way. That’s just human nature.
Israel is basically Satan shaped into a state, but let’s not forget that they could’ve never done what they’ve done throughout the years without the complete support from their Western peers back home. In this case, the West’s actual hatred of the Jews is getting mixed with the desire for accountability from the 3 righteous folks over there, and Israel is being “scapegoated” because the Zionist project, just like the other Western colonialist projects, is soon to collapse and the powers that be no longer find it a good investment. And I said scapegoated not because Israel is not guilty but because it’s a shared crime against humanity, and the West is doing a Pontius Pilates and washing the blood off their hands, pretending to be innocent because accountability is not a known Western trait and it would be hard/impossible to push a narrative that hurts people’s feefees. Remember that this thorn on humanity’s side was not just created by the British and the French over a century ago, but that even some months ago British ships were protecting Israel against retaliatory drone strikes after the latter suddenly bombed Iran with the help of the Americans (which is the height of Western civilization, the other Franco-British child, the unmasked soul of the West and the final destination for every nation that shares its ethos)…
What do you mean by “their Western peers back home”? Are you suggesting Israelis are Westerners and not Middle Easterners?
they are. israelis are European colonials whose claim to the Levant is tied to a diasporatic exodus during the late roman empire. Palestinians are indigenous to the Levant, just like the israeli colonists’ ancestors from 1200 years ago. however, the Jews that spent their time in Europe, the Ashkenazi, that dominate israeli settler politics have been disconnected from the Levant for so long and integrated into European society so deeply as a means of survival that their claims to be the rightful heirs to the Levant no longer make sense without needing to erase the history of the Palestinians, many of whom themselves maintain Jewish cultural traditions the Ashkenazi lost.
so they erase the Palestinians and their stories, just like the Europeans they’ve been around for the last couple millennia did to them. if you truly believe that israelis are from the near east, plain and simple, then there are significant chunks of your understanding of history that are either missing or are outright russian/German/israeli fabrications. i suggest you spend some time reading about the history of my people over the last 200 years to understand that Zionism and the current israeli state are a reactionary response to antisemitic violence in Europe in the late 1800s, and that Zionism is not a universal approach to Jewish identity with the other response to that violence being a philosophy known as doikayt. while you’re reading, too, focus on non European perspectives on what Palestinians call the Nakba, or tragedy. It’s the loss of their ancestral homelands that they’ve been on for 20k years to Europeans claiming to be from there.
but if you don’t, then please take the following truth with you: the Likud is a white supremecist European colonial project, just like the united states and manifest destiny, or russia’s subjugation of minority peoples across their Asian territory.
That’s a massive post that could have been more effectively summed up as “Yes Im that racist and I know fuckall about history”
Factually the majority of Israelis are from Middle Eastern nations whose relatives were expelled when Israel was created so it is factually inaccurate to suggest that Israelis are Europeans when the above covers roughly 55% of the population.
Some Palestinians might have ancestry with the original native groups but we would have noway of being able to determine this. We factually do know that there was significant Arab migration into the area at various points and the modern population is related to these Arabs. To be clear there is no “native” population to the Levant that can be proven in any way right now.
While I agree Likhud is racist and largely counterproductive you have so many overtly factual errors in addition to the overt racism it is difficult for me to take you serious at all.
Israeli prime ministers.
David Ben Gurion 1948 - 1953. Born in Poland Moshe Sharett 1953-1955. Born in the Russian Empire (modern day Ukraine) David Ben Gurion 1955 - 1963. Born in Poland Levi Eshkol 1963 - 1969. Born in Russian Empire (modern day Ukraine) Yigal Allon 1969 (interim PM). Born in Palestine. Father born in Belarus. Maternal grandfather born in Ukraine. Golda Meir 1969 - 1974. Born in Russia. Yitzhak Rabin - 1992 - 1995. Born in Palestine. Father born in Ukraine. Mother born in Belarus. Shimon Peres - 1995 - 1996. Born in Poland. Benjamin Netanyahu 1996 - 1999. Born in Israel. Father born in Poland. Mother born in Palestine, but was a US citizen. Parents migrated from Lithuania to the US Ehud Barak 1999 - 2001 . Born in Palestine. Mother born in Poland. Father born in Lithuania. Ariel Sharon 2001 - 2006. Born in Palestine. Parents born in Russia. Ehud Olmert 2006 - 2009. Born in Palestine. Parents born in Ukraine and Russia. Benjamin Netanyahu - 2009 - 2021 Naftali Bennett 2021 - 2022. Born in Israel. Parents from the US Yair Lapid 2022. Born in Israel. Father born in Yugaslovia. Mother born in Israel. Maternal grandfather born in Transylvania. Benjamin Netanyahu 2022 - present
It is true that much of the Israeli population is middle eastern. However the political of Israel has been European from it’s founding until today.
(which is what we were talking about until they shifted the goalposts to mean all Jews living within Israeli controlled territory)
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Ikr? All these Germanic and Eastern European “Semites”. 🤣
Btw I should’ve just said “European peers (Americans included, ofc)” but somehow I can’t correct my previous post.
Mizrahi Jews are 54% of the population and the Ashkenazi and Sephardic populations are still Jewish people.
Unless you are so fucking racist that you think “Semite” is a skin tone your reply makes zero sense.
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100-54=46 46<50 so not half.
Most Jewish people did not have last names they got them after the migration into Eastern Europe. Many have European last names due to the history of European antisemitism. The fact that you bring this up as something these people chose, rather than it being forced on them as was typically the case, really highlights how poor your understanding isof the history of Jews in Europe.
No one is paying me I just speak out against overt racism when I see it. You are racist, bad at math and have a shit grasp on history. Do you want a ladder to get out if that hole you keep digging? I’d be perfectly fine with you self creating an oubliette.
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You are suggesting that the Jewish population of Europe isn’t Middle Eastern in their origins. That’s overtly false and a common racist claim.
If you don’t want to be called out then don’t give anyone a reason.