I can’t answer that question but I’ve always wondered why anyone switches to Brave. I installed it a few years ago because I heard it was privacy focused and it immediately hit me with a bunch of shit about crypto and rewards or something. I uninstalled it immediately.
I tried to install Brave and it almost nuked my PC. Completely jammed up. I uninstalled it immediately.
Yeah so true!! I installed it, and it launched an attack to overheat and destroy my CPU. Thankfully I reacted quick enough, and unplugged my computer quickly. However when I turned it back on, all my files were gone. It was cryptomining without my consent. Absolutely crazy!
/s?
Lol yes
Brave falls under “security theatre” and is absolutely useless
And run by a homophobic crypto bro.
Who also inflicted Javascript upon the world, the incompetent piece of shit.
I won’t say that’s worse than the homophobia because I don’t want to seem dismissive about oppression of queer folks, but it sure as Hell isn’t better, either!
SCNR if they were able to make good decisions, they would never have switched to chrome anyway. /s
tbh, i don’t get all the mozilla/firefox hate. even “the linux project” missed the mark by a mile with his firefox critique.
whatever mozilla does, it’s not even half as evil as google
We learned that from politics in general. Vote for the lesser evil, not for the optimal choice, as there is none, sadly.
Somewhere along the line Brave tricked people into thinking they weren’t owned by a couple of really bigoted dudes.
In fairness Brian Bondy might be a good dude, but Brendan Eich sucks.
Do you have a source that resumes everything bad about Brave in one neat package ? I am tired of searching for sources everywhere and not finding everything I need each time someone ask me about it
Firefox is my main browser but there’s a few specific things that only work in chromium.
People will use whatever works for them.I wanted to try Brave a couple of years ago. I ran the installer, and it was one of those pieces of shit installers that just goes ahead and installs without any input from the user, dumping god knows what onto your system, and it puts everything in some obscure AppData subdirectory that can’t be deduced without right-clicking the desktop shortcut. I uninstalled it without even launching it once.
If a user is 50/50 on whether or not they just installed malware, you might wanna check your programming practices.
Well reading comments here has me going to download Vivaldi to replace Brave.
Thank y’all!
How vivaldi isn’t more popular with tech users that want to use chromium totally eludes me. The browser is super moddeable and the devs have so far been nothing but super open and correct to their community. I don’t think there’s been a single vivaldi “scandal” of note. It literally opera before that went down the drain, and is a better browser on top.
The whole “it’s not open source” mantra has also been thoroughly addressed.
Also don’t get me started on the brave love. It feels astroturfed. I do not get how you can genuinely shill that browser…
You literally ignored the whole comment section, you madlad.
Firefox is some other type of engine that renders pages differently and doesn’t always work the same but brave has Chrome underneath it so it’s the same thing and it’s fine and uses all the same extensions and you like it
A good chunk of websites are just broken with Firefox and their not even broken in obvious ways. Some times they fail to load, sometimes they render weirdly, sometimes their just unresponsive. I use Firefox as my main browser but I always have something chromium based as my backup for when a website I wanna use just doesn’t work. A lot of the time I don’t even think to use it and assume the site would be broken on chromium as well but nope. Its almost always Firefox:/.
Can you give any examples where we can see these differences?
The royal mail tracking website for example brings up an obnoxious full page block on top of the actual content. Only happens on Firefox on android. Chrome worked fine.
Edit: also, just for reference, I’m amazed anyone actually needs examples of this. Its very well known that different browsers have different supported functionalities and unless the webdevs are properly customising styles and scripts for different platforms their gonna deviate. Thusly its not surprising most stuff only works as designed on Chrome since that’s the only Web browser that’s guaranteed to be tested on (it has the lions size of market share, to the point Firefox barely even registers).
Interesting! Thanks for the screenshots. I’m on iOS, so not familiar with Chrome vs FF on mobile.
I was curious for an example because it’s probably been a decade since I’ve had an issue with FF rendering something improperly (or even differently) compared with Chrome. A while back, we did have one internal webpage at work that had a very small difference in FF, but that went away after a few FF updates happened. I was the only one who ever noticed the difference.
cause most people just google a chrome alternative. they dont do research. brave gives them a surafce level adblocking, and they feel fine with it.
Doesn’t Firefox still have brand recognition though? I’d have thought even people who answer “google” to “what browser do you use” would have heard of firefox, and therefore looked it up rather than using the neurons to ask, “what alternative browsers are there?”
promotion, especially as a ‘security focused’ browser with ‘uncommon’ features.
I got my dad to try Firefox and he said it drained his phone battery like no tomorrow, so now he uses brave because it doesn’t
I’ve been using Firefox for years on my phone with no such problems, so I can’t exactly verify what he’s saying
It’s possible dad was lying.
I tried out Firefox on my phone a year or two ago. I had a number of issues, including accessing secure pages for work. I have little doubt that it wasn’t Firefox at fault so much as it was narrow testing by website developers, but the end result was problems for me regardless of who was at fault, so I switched back to Chrome.
Because vanilla Firefox has to be tinkered with to get the best out of it and the average user is not able to do it
In what way?
I switched recently to Librewolf, but as a long time Firefox user (of which Librewolf is a fork anyway) it didn’t seem unusable out of the box. There are some settings for privacy and studies etc you mght want to change, but they are all very obvious in the GUI preferences.
I did personally go into about:config to set a few things, like not allowing searches from the address bar because I’m weird, but what makes Firefox no good for the average user?
The typical conversation I have is:
- Hey, how don’t you have ads on Youtube?
- Well, its easy: you install Firefox and then…
and that’s where I loose most of the people, that extra step.
Me and you can go down on the
about:configall day long to dissect every aspect of privacy we care about. For the other 90% of people, even just going to Mozilla extensions manager and downloading u-Block Origin is too much.Bear-proof trash can theorem…
As a user of Firefox from 1-3 and quantum to current… What exactly are you tinkering with? Install ublock and be done.
Dude I use firefox as main browser too, I’m not saying that brave is better, read my comment again.
What I’m saying is that you and I are not the average user. Our moms are the average user, our brother that got a DUI last friday is the average user, our anti-vax aunt is the average user…
Read their comment again.
They didn’t say that you said brave was better.
They said that folks barely need to tinker with anything, and was asking what you need to tinker with to make it suitable for you.and was asking what you need to tinker with to make it suitable for you.
For myself I like to add a couple addons, like u-Block origins with automatic cookie reject and containers for when I have to browse IG or Google stuff, plus some tweaks in the about:config for disabling telemetry and such.
My point is that many people either don’t feel like going through this process, even if it takes just a few minutes, or don’t care about privacy at all, they just fancy an ad blocker. So they may end up installing Brave.
I’ll give you one of many examples I have: I’ve taken guitar lessons for the last year and a half and every time my teacher put a background track on youtube we had to sit through 30 seconds of ads, while he complained about it every single time. For the first month I tried to persuade him to install FF + u-Block, but he kept saying things like “I’m not a computer guy”. Even after I offered to do it myself, he was afraid that “there may be some sort of virus” so at one point I just stopped suggesting it. A couple months ago he installed Brave because a frend of his told him to and that was it.And that’s because what me and you see as “barely tinkering”, as you put it, other people see it as this herculean labor they cannot even imagine to approach. Of course this is because of a lack of culture on the matter, but most of people don’t care about making a culture at all, they just want to be spoon fed with stuff that works, no matter what happens under the hood.
Does Firefox have an app (plug-in/extension) store where you get it from? Are they even able to use an iPhone?
If not, than installing any browser is probably gonna be too complicated for them. Otherwise it’s not a hurdal of technical expertise, but rather they just don’t care
Thanks lol
As pointed out, I didn’t say anything about brave.
But your later reply also doesn’t really explain why people choose nonstandard browser A over B…
Regardless… That tinkering is all you.
Any more so than vanilla Chrome?
No, in fact the <u>average</u> user doesn’t tinker with Chrome either
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